User talk:Fragments of Jade

Blocked for a week for disruption

Due to ongoing disruptive editing and threats on WP:ANI and various talk pages, I have blocked your account from editing for a week.

It is apparent both from checkuser reports and from your edit patterns that you have been sockpuppeting, and anyone who does so and then engages in such a hostile discussion on the Administrators Noticeboards is disrupting the Wikipedia project and community. We welcome anyone who wants to contribute positively. Sneaking around with multiple accounts which are evidently working together to contravene our policies is not constructive or positive. Engaging in long drawn out hostile discussions on our main discussion areas is not constructive or positive.

You are welcome to resume editing in a week if you can do so without causing further conflict and in agreement with our policies. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:28, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for repeated abuse of editing privileges. Please stop. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Fragments of Jade (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I have not been editting disruptively, and I cannot believe someone actually had the nerve to ban me for such a thing. User 88 has even admitted that she is following me around Wikipedia. I filed an abuse report like I was told to, by an admin, and it's an outrage that I've been banned, while that person gets to continue harassing people. I have broken no rules, only told the truth.Fragments of Jade (talk) 01:06, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Decline reason:

As illustrated by your thread on ANI, you level lots of allegations but do not provide any evidence. If you have evidence such as diffs to back up your claims, feel free to post another request. In the meantime, I have to go off what I can see, which tells me that your unblock request should be declined. — Selket ^Talk 01:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for further disruption of the project through sockpuppets. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 13:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

What I Suggest

Fragments of Jade is currently blocked indefinitely. I believe this should, for now, be limited to a period of 1 week. The other sockpuppet account(s) should be deleted before they are unblocked.

All in all, I don't believe FoJ is a bad editor, merely a misinformed one. I appreciate passion, and I appreciate that others have knowledge on things that I don't. Everyone who signs up for a Wikipedia account has a vested interest. They also are responsible for the policies.

FoJ, you will have to submit a proper unblock request using {{unblock|your reason}}, following the format to the letter (i.e. admit what happened, promise to change).

My understanding is that you are a young person - that's not a bad thing, but because of this you don't seem to grasp a) human dynamics b) authority c) technology.

I'm not sure how you believed that Based on your past misunderstandings about what a sockpuppet is, I'm sadly not surprised that you tried to create one yourself. You now know, better than any of us.

Move forward, and don't dwell in the past. Ask an advanced editor to "adopt" you. Become a good editor. Keep your passion reserved for creating good edits, and not for fighting with others, especially those who try to help you. BMW(drive) 15:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't mean to sound like a jerk, and I'm not in a position to decide or anything, but I have to disagree with your assessment. I think that FoJ is a bad editor, the kind who believes that their position is the only valid one and is unwilling to consider opposing points of view, the kind that takes disagreement with their edits extremely personally and responds with personal attacks, the kind that is willing to falsify evidence and misdirect an argument so that she can "win," the kind of editor who has no interest whatsoever in consensus. Wikipedia is, at some level, built upon debate and disagreement--that's our mechanism for maintaining quality in pages. I don't see any reason that somebody who is unwilling to participate maturely in that system should be reinstated after being blocked. Yes, FoJ is young and has a lot to learn, but I'd prefer that she not waste everybody's time learning it here. --waka (talk) 18:59, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Same here. 88.161.129.43 (talk) 20:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Careful 88, you're providing proof that we're not the same person LOL BMW(drive) 21:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

First of all, do you think you could be anymore condescending? I'm most likely older than all of you, and it really shows. You wanna talk immature? How about when I made an edit on the "Threads of Fate" page and you made a mocking comment on 88's talk page? Both you and 88 have been bothering me, not the other way around, and I'm really ticked off how you two are twisting things around. There's nothing wrong with how I edit, but there is something wrong with the obsession you two-88 in particular-seem to have with me. Every edit I made, she is lurking there, waiting to revert it. And the minute I'm gone, she loses all interest in the issue-solid proof she only argues with me because she wants to antagonize me, not because she actually cares about the edits. I'm over twenty years old, and I am well versed in the things you seem to think I'm not. There is no "taking disagreements personally", because the disagreements in this care ARE personal attacks. The "Wild ARMs" articles are all the proof I need, as is the "Threads of Fate" onee. Despite a certain character obviously not being killed in "Threads of Fate", when I delete that error from said character's profile, 88 reverts it, despite the fact that anyone who has played the game would know otherwise. And the ARMs/Arms debate 88 argued passionately, claiming that despite not really playing the series, it was an edit she disagreed with. And yet, the minute I am gone, she completely abandons her post amd the argument, despite the fact that there was still another person arguing the point. There is NOTHING wrong with my edits, other than the fact that 88 is keeping track of them and takes every oppurtunity to come after me. You guys can turn a blind eye all you want and try to blame me, but it's only going to hurt the articles and the innocent in the end. And second, I come back for the first time in a long time, and suddenly find out that yet again, I've been falsely accused of sock puppetry. Now, another user has been unfairly banned, and my own reputation is ruined, as is theirs, and all the other people you've dragged into your personal vendetta against me. I'm sick of being the one to propose compromises and try to have discussions, only to be portrayed as the bad guy and harassed by a bunch of immature kids. Mr. T has gotten dozens of warnings from dozens of editors, but he still repeats in disruptively editting. He refused to join in the discussions about his edits, yet was not at all punished for this, despite leaving me no other choice but to revert them. His edits are harmful, and I will not sit back and let him ruin those articles after they've finally returned to their former glory. I tried all other alternatives to edit warring, but he is unwilling to participate. You kids need to grow up a little and take a good long look at yourselves before you start trying to say other people are young. Maybe I should stalk your edits and revert every single one of them and start harassing you. I bet you wouldn't like that. Of course, unlike 88, I'd just be blocked if I did something like that. You all need to get some lives and stop harassing people.Fragments of Jade (talk) 23:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)