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Air Transat Flight 961

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Non-notable routine aviation incident in which nobody was hurt. Fails WP:N, WP:NOT#NEWS.  Sandstein  23:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

• Keep - Besides being the in-depth subject of multiple secondary reliable sources, the incident instigated scrutiny and changes in inspection policy of rudders on A-300s after years of investigation as reported by the Toronto Star .[1][2] There are no WP:MUST_BE_DEATHS guidelines or anything like it in Wikipedia. --Oakshade (talk) 23:56, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cuba-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:52, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:52, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Keep[edit] Why delete?: Air Transat Flight 961 Link title

Sandstein, with all do respect, are you a pilot? As an airline pilot myself, TSC961 was a major and life threatening incident, but great pilots on the flightdeck dealt with it appropriately. You say all aviation incidents are too common and not all can have a page, yet you have a page on jetBlue Flight 292? That was a small incident, a malfunctioning nose gear and not life threatening. The only reason it was largely publicized was because it was jetBlue's first major (albeit minor) incident. Another thing far too common is rwy incursions and mid-air near misses, yet you allow a page regarding the JAL near miss with the DC-10 and 747. If this is not enough information as to why not delete the page, I would be glad to explain the situation in far more detail. Imagine being in an Airbus A310 and losing a rudder-not a common event. I would not post anything about the recent 'smoke in the cabin' on that AA 757 at LAX. Those are too common-twice a week maybe. The Transat incident was an isolated event that provided insights into AA 587, and so, sir, I do not think you could tell the 271 pax/crew on that Airbus that it was minor-a dutch roll. Imagine two experienced, widebody Airbus pilots, doing a secondary walkaround, and to their shock, they had no rudder. By the way, I was on that aircraft (not the pilot though). My aritcle has more place here than JB292. This is not a routine incident. We do not practice rudder separation in the simulator, so, with all do respect, please only state what you know and I trust you are not a pilot. I mean no disrespect and hope that we can be friends but please save that for a topic you have experience in.

Thanks very much, Captain Cody Diamond —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boeing747200 (talk • contribs) 04:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)