Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reb Moshe of Tzfat

Reb Moshe of Tzfat

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Non-notable teacher. Article was created by its subject. All sources I can find are either to his own websites, myspace, or youtube, or similar sites. Corvus cornix_talk 21:01, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

The article is not being written by it's own subject! There is more information to be added during the next few days.

• So are you saying that User:Reb Moshe of Tzfat is not Reb Moshe of Tzfat? In that case, the account needs to be blocked for impersonating another person. Corvus cornix_talk 21:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - not notable and huge COI issues --T-rex 21:19, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

That this isn't a notable teacher is a personal opinion, needs to be proven. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TeodorTodorov (talk • contribs) 21:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

• • That's not the way it works in Wikipedia. It is incumbent on the article's writer to prove notability, not for others to prove he isn't notable. Corvus cornix_talk 21:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Are you into jewish orthodox studies to know if someone is a notable teacher? The article is to be edited until it contains only biographical infos, and no connection to any kind of advertisement. reliable sources and quotations are to be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TeodorTodorov (talk • contribs) 21:29, 24 August 2008 (UTC) Besides, the main editor of the article is TeodorTodorov and that is not Reb Moshe of Tzfat

• What I am is an experienced Wikipedia contributor who knows that Wikipedia's notability criteria require that reliable sources be provided as to the subject's notability. If you can find reliable sources that prove that he's well-known in Jewish Orthodox studies, then please do so. This discussion is open for five days, we can revisit the notability any time in the interim. Corvus cornix_talk 21:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TeodorTodorov (talk • contribs) 21:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 14:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - he is NN and notability needs to be established, not everyone is notable until proved otherwise. The page now is entirely self-published materials and reads more like a MY SPACE self promotion. No significant external sources or citations were produced, it is COI and self-promotional. We have deleted many Outreach rabbis in the past- even those with brief mentions in local newsletters or brief interviews on Jewish talk shows.--Jayrav (talk) 20:49, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
• Comment As always, in order to include an article on a subject the subject has to be notables. The basic requirement to establish notability for an individual is to show that the person has been discussed substantially in multiple reliable sources. Religious sources are permitted, and there's some latitude as to what's an appropriate source to establish notability in the field. But whatever else sources have to be independent of the subject -- the person's own writings and publications don't count. Right now, the only sources the article shows seems to be Reb Moshe's own. Without more, the article would have to be deleted. Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 01:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)