Talk:Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution

EDGE stands for ...

Hi all! Why is "... GLOBAL evolution" used here as the long name for EDGE? It is ".. GSM evolution" as I have just checked in 3GPP TS 21.905-6.7.0 (2004-06), the document defining "Vocabulary for 3GPP Specifications". The "...global evolution" I have found on the 3GPP server only in some old documents dated 1999 and 2000. As I have not yet the permission to change a Lemma, can somebody else please do it. thanks --Fortythree 15:55, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I will move it to the standard name according to the GSM Association. Global Evolution is an outdated term. Cacophony July 8, 2005 20:04 (UTC)

US providers

Are there any U.S. celluar providers who are using EDGE? I see GPRS and EVDO offered by TMobile and Verizon.

Cingular currently offers EDGE in some markets. T-Mobile is in the process of rolling out EDGE. Cacophony 15:39, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

move the list?

Should we move the list to List of EDGE networks? Right now the list is longer than the article. Cacophony 19:37, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Most operators now have EDGE, so this list might even be useless. Maybe we should list operators that do not provide EDGE ? AlexandreAmant (talk) 22:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

edge, grps and hscsd

The beginning of the article leaves me with impression that Edge only boosts the speed of Gprs but it is possible to run Hscsd over Edge. Ltxxx 15:03, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

No: Hscsd is a circuit switched technology (CS) as GPRS or EDGE are Packet switched (PS). AlexandreAmant (talk) 23:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

disorganized

To me, this article seems very poorly organised. I cannot follow it. I do not know anything on the subject else I would try to re-write some of it myself.

Also there are different classes of EDGE. There is no detailed description of these different classes. I need to know about them.

Upload ?

The upload capacity of EGRPS (and EHCSD) is not stated.

List of commercial websites??

This article has a lot of commercial websites embedded links. Please remove these link, per WP:NOT. — Indon (reply) — 10:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

cleanup comments in Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution#Networks

I added the sprawling lists, proseline, contradictory section and uncited section templates to this section for the following reasons:

• The list appears to have been edited by multiple individuals by appending new networks as and when EDGE support was introduced, hence, proseline.
• Amongst other contradictions, T-Mobile is said to have good edge coverage in Croatia and the Czech Republic, but later said to only have EDGE support in parts of Germany. If this refers to different divisions of T-Mobile, it is unclear ie. the links should use the whole company name (ie. T-Mobile Czech Republic)
• Where is this information taken from? is it recent and/or accurate?
• The list requires general clean-up; it is unsightly, poorly ordered, and hard to read. Information is hard to find.

  Thanks, Jonaboff_talk

  23:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Lists of EDGE in Europe

This list does not seem to be correct? there is no EDGE in the UK. Many European operators announced EDGE in the late 90's but due to the costs of 3g they never implemented EDGE chosing to remain at GPRS. Does anybody have a real uptodate list? --Rbaal 06:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Personally I think the list is pointless (and in its current incarnation useless) and should simply be stricken. If someone needs to find out if a network has EDGE they can just check out the providers page. Perhaps some blanket statement can be made like "many operators who had early deployments of UMTS have foregone EDGE" (as seems to be the case in the UK as stated above, and Sweden IME), if someone can find a source for it Kalleboo 13:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Seems O2 has quietly rolled out EDGE in the UK - my Blackberry is currently sat on the EDGE network while sat in my office in Somerset - our reps are also reporting EDGE connections throughout the country. Speculation is that preparation for the (alleged) iPhone-O2 partnering deal has started Pharazon 16:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

2.75G Redirect -- Eurocentric?

Currently, the Page for CDMA2000 refers to 1xRTT as being a "2.75G" technology, with a link to the "2.75G" article -- which redirects to this page about GSM technology. Clicking on a link in a CDMA article that ostensibly talks about data transmission in a CDMA (or at least access neutral) context and ending up on a GSM-specific page is disorienting at best, and horribly misleading in the worst case. AdamRoach 21:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Egypt..

Egypt is stated in both, Africa and Middle East. In Africa, it is stated that Egypt Mobinil tried to implement EDGE and failed. In Middle East, it is stated that in Egypt, Vodafone, Mobinil and Etisalat implement EDGE. This is a contradiction! Sabb0ur 01:31, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

External links

http://www.ericsson.com/products/white_papers_pdf/edge_wp_technical.pdf is not reachable. Is there an other pdf elsewhere from ERICSSON? ==

EDGE is not 3G

This was readded by an anonymous user: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution&action=edit&undoafter=198717341&undo=199166154

I undid it.

There is no reference, and EDGE isn't actually a 3G technology as it operates as a 2G (GSM) bolt-on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimpsEd (talk • contribs) 20:25, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

According to the article 3G, the ITU defined six technologies forming 3G networking, in its IMT-2000 standard, EDGE (not even EDGE Evolution) being one of them: So, what to do? Thyl Engelhardt 213.70.217.172 (talk) 11:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

Proposal, that this article be moved to EDGE (capitalised). 'EDGE' is shorter and represents common usage. The full meaning behind the Backronym can still be expanded on the first line of the main article. Currently 'GSM' is simply GSM. The only potential conflict I am aware of is the EDGE of Existence Programme which already has a suitable name. I have added an {{otheruses4}} to the top of this article pointing back to the edge disambiguity page. —Sladen (talk) 07:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm opposed to the moving of this article. The Edge disambiguation page is appropriate, though perhaps acronyms deserve a separate listing on that page. Enhanced Data Rates for GSM Evolution isn't the only organisation using the EDGE acronym, and hardly the most useful or sought after. There is at least equal reason for the EDGE of Existence Programme to claim this redirect, and there will be more entries for this abbreviation in future.136.186.1.191 (talk) 04:51, 12 September 2008 (UTC)