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== Free Blowjobs ==

Now that I have your attention, how are you? [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 03:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:Dammit I really got excited for a second ;). I'm fine as usual, although a bit busier than I used to be. You? '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 03:27, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm ok. I'm going to be focusing on getting [[Mahatma Gandhi]] properly named. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 03:48, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:Have fun with that. Hopefully I can get time to improve bits of Kosovo. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 08:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

== Re:More trolling ==

Hello, and thankyou for bringing this to my attention. Before I proceed with this, are you sure that this is the same person as someone I blocked before? <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif">[[User:Lradrama|<span style="color:red">Lra</span>]][[User talk:Lradrama|drama]]</span> 19:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yes, I thought I had come across this person before. The behavioural pattern is exactly the same, and a checkuser shows that this is a case of abusing multiple accounts. I have extended the range block - 6 months like the rest of them. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif">[[User:Lradrama|<span style="color:red">Lra</span>]][[User talk:Lradrama|drama]]</span> 10:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

::That is rather interesting...is that saying that the IP can still edit when blocked? :S <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif">[[User:Lradrama|<span style="color:red">Lra</span>]][[User talk:Lradrama|drama]]</span> 19:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

== Comments ==

I apologize for deleting that comment, it was rude of me to take a liberty of doing so; it might start a precedent. It is too late and too long to explain the snake-->terrorist notion but I can sum up all Serbian derogatory terms, "secessionist-terrorists", "muslim terrorists", "albanian terrorists", "kla terrorists", "uck terrorsits" and anything else + terrorists. A few other terms are Siptar, Shitpar, siptarski terroristi, etc. [[User:Kosova2008|Ari d'Kosova]] ([[User talk:Kosova2008|talk]]) 06:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Careful, BalkanFever is a well known terrorist. He once, and I'm not joking, terrified me. It was terrible. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 19:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Are you viewing my every action? I was referring to the Sharr mountains? LOL, i wanted to see if anyone would notice. Thanks for you reverting everything. [[User:Kosova2008|Ari d'Kosova]] ([[User talk:Kosova2008|talk]]) 22:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Not your actions, I stalk BalkanFever. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 23:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

==Macedonia naming dispute discussion==

User:Hellasforever has [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macedonia_naming_dispute&action=history removed] my section "Articles about Greek actions against Macedonia/Macedonians due to naming issue" in the discussion section of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macedonia_naming_dispute Macedonia name issue]. The section had many articles which should have been used in the Macedonia naming dispute article. Here are some of the articles:

:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1412/45/ Greek Paper shows Bush as Hitler and a Macedonian swastika (the same time the Greek swastika occurred - right before NATO)]
:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1330/45/ Macedonians attacked in Greece]
:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1348/45/ Another cowardly attack on Macedonians in Greece]
:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/891/45/ Greek authorities continue to abuse ethnic Macedonians]
:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1747/45/ Greece abuses Macedonians at the border, again]
:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1725/45/ Greek MP asks for death penalty for Macedonians in Greece]
:[http://www.sofiaecho.com/article/greek-macedonian-name-dispute-leads-to-ban-on-lamb-meat/id_28781/catid_68 Greek-Macedonian name dispute leads to ban on lamb meat]
:[http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/9768/ Macedonia Plane Barred from Greek Airspace]
:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/946/45/ Macedonia to ask Greece for explanation on MAT]
:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1192/45/ Greece bans financial transfers from, and to Macedonia]
:[http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/210322,greece-outrages-macedonia-with-ban-on-presidential-flight.html Greece outrages Macedonia with ban on presidential flight]
:[http://umdiaspora.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=277&Itemid=1 UMD Taken Aback by Metropolitan Anthimos’ Threatening Statement (Top Greek bishop calls for war with Macedonia)]
:[http://www.makfax.com.mk/look/agencija/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=2&NrArticle=90515&NrIssue=504&NrSection=20 Another Greek metropolitan bishop states territorial claims for Macedonia]
:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1560/45/ Greek media fumes over comments from MOC]
:[http://www.mia.com.mk/portal/page?_pageid=113,166290&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL&VestID=46539078&prikaz=3 Greece's comments of H.H. Stefan's statement in Rome intended for domestic political scene]
:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1577/1/ Heated debate at the EU, Macedonian delegation not present]
:[http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1634/1/ Protest letter sent to Nato over an incident]


Either undo the edit User:Hellasforever did, or repost those, or read the articles and use them in the [[Macedonia naming dispute]] appropriately. [[User:Mactruth|Mactruth]] ([[User talk:Mactruth|talk]]) 03:53, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== To all stalkers ==

I've been without internet for a few days, and it won't be back until next week. Right now I'm using a public computer, and so I'm not logged in. Hope all goes well in the Balkans (and everywhere else). BalkanFever. [[Special:Contributions/124.190.136.31|124.190.136.31]] ([[User talk:124.190.136.31|talk]]) 10:44, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:Oks, have a nice vacation :) --'''[[User:Laveol|<font color="#007700">L<font color="#009900">a<font color="#00aa00">v<font color="#00cc00">e</font>o</font>l</font></font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Laveol|T]]</sup>''' 12:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:Take it easy. (1 down, 1,999,999 to go ;) jk) [[User:3rdAlcove|3rdAlcove]] ([[User talk:3rdAlcove|talk]]) 20:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::Hehe thanks guys :). '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 11:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== Uncivility ==

Ok, what was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASelski_speech&diff=225788322&oldid=224092340 that] about? "Probably cause you suck"? And why in the world did you need to say that? You might have only left it with a note - this is not a forum or something - why do you feel the need to add such things? --'''[[User:Laveol|<font color="#007700">L<font color="#009900">a<font color="#00aa00">v<font color="#00cc00">e</font>o</font>l</font></font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Laveol|T]]</sup>''' 10:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:It's a joke, and I'm pretty sure he does suck anyway. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 10:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
::You're pretty sure?? Are you sure you're BalkanFever and not someone else? --'''[[User:Laveol|<font color="#007700">L<font color="#009900">a<font color="#00aa00">v<font color="#00cc00">e</font>o</font>l</font></font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Laveol|T]]</sup>''' 10:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I'm BalkanSickness. How did you know? <small>btw continue the thing from FP's page here if you want</small> '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 11:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, I'm not sure we've got anything else to say - I mean we're not linguists and we just need to cut the political stuff from the articles (both of the political craps) and that's it. Let's wait for Fut.Perf's opinion --'''[[User:Laveol|<font color="#007700">L<font color="#009900">a<font color="#00aa00">v<font color="#00cc00">e</font>o</font>l</font></font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Laveol|T]]</sup>''' 12:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yes, and not falsify sources (I really, really, don't believe Schmeiger talks about Bulgarian). <small>BTW the plural is ''crap'' (same goes for ''shit''); it's not like Slavic :)</small> '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 12:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Not true. Observe: "BalkanFever's intellect isn't worth two shits." See? Plural! [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 12:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes, we have that, but one can't say "Beamathan should stop writing these shits", can they? '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 12:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::One could, but one would be an idiot to do so. So fine, as long as you admit I'm the man, we can agree. Agreed? Good. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 12:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, obviously. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 07:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Y'know ==

I'd probably take 10 of ''youse guys'' over Dodona, ''any day''. [[User:3rdAlcove|3rdAlcove]] ([[User talk:3rdAlcove|talk]]) 11:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, I'd take us too ;). Seriously, he sounds like he's 10. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 11:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Welcome ==

Thank you, BalkanFever. Just a quick question, is the [[Selski speech]] article intended as a joke? --[[User:Iobyo|Iobyo]] ([[User talk:Iobyo|talk]]) 14:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:I probably should have asked [[User:PMK1|PMK1]]. Either way, I plan to make a lot of changes to that article. --[[User:Iobyo|Iobyo]] ([[User talk:Iobyo|talk]]) 14:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::He's on holiday, but go ahead, [[WP:BOLD|be bold]]. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 14:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Spoken Macedonian|This]] is my attempt at a rewrite with what I believe to be a much better title. Should I suggest a merge on the talk page or just go ahead and [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirect]] the Selski speech article? --[[User:Iobyo|Iobyo]] ([[User talk:Iobyo|talk]]) 15:58, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Looks good. Personally, I would suggest "Vernacular Macedonian" as the title, since it can be written as well (as with Makedonska Iskra). All you have to do is replace the content of [[Selski speech]] with your rewrite, and then I'll move the article. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 16:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
The term vernacular is a little too broad. There aren't really any standardized Macedonian dialects, so words like ''ојме'' will only ever appear in speech (ignoring stylistics and such). If that word is characteristic of speakers of a certain dialect and if that dialect were to be standardized and codified into a literary one, ''одиме'' would be prescribed. So, they're actually two different things and why I choose to use the title Spoken Macedonian. --[[User:Iobyo|Iobyo]] ([[User talk:Iobyo|talk]]) 16:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Fair enough. I'll ask an admin friend to merge the history now. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 16:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

==Kobra==

Why must you call me Kosov'''o'''2008? As far goat milk vs cow milk, I do have a serious answer but I think you two are joking around so I won't answer till I find out the tone of the discussion. I'm also looking to change my username from Kosov'''a'''2008 ---> Ari d'Kosova, any thoughts? [[User:Kosova2008|Ari d'Kosova]] ([[User talk:Kosova2008|talk]]) 20:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Re. Article merge ==

Hello BalkanFever. I have merged the articles you requested. Respective histories merged too. I'm fine by the way, hope you're doing well. :-) Best regards, <strong><font style="color: #082567">[[User:Husond|Hús]]</font>[[User:Husond/Esperanza|<font color="green">ö</font>]]<font style="color: #082567">[[User talk:Husond|nd]]</font></strong> 00:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Standard Macedonian ==

It's a little complicated and your question deserves a detailed response so I'll get back to you soon. In my opinion, both articles should be kept though they do need a lot of work. For comparison, see [[Standard French]] and [[Standard Spanish]]. --[[User:Iobyo|Iobyo]] ([[User talk:Iobyo|talk]]) 03:10, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:I've just noticed that I somehow copied the intro of [[Standard Macedonian]] from the [[Standard German]] article, so I'll need to fix that too. --[[User:Iobyo|Iobyo]] ([[User talk:Iobyo|talk]]) 03:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
::It's a similar case with the Macedonian language. Unfortunately, not much has been written about the spoken language even though we all speak of the ''разговорен јазик'' and ''книжевен јазик''. --[[User:Iobyo|Iobyo]] ([[User talk:Iobyo|talk]]) 05:25, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Do you think we should use the term ''книжевен'' or ''литературен јазик''? They are synonymous but the latter is a loanword (and also more frequently used). --[[User:Iobyo|Iobyo]] ([[User talk:Iobyo|talk]]) 08:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I think listing them both is much better too considering they're both widely used. It really comes down one's linguistic politics: ''книжевност'' ([[Linguistic purism|puristic]]) vs ''литература'' (loan). --[[User:Iobyo|Iobyo]] ([[User talk:Iobyo|talk]]) 09:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::That's an easy one: telephone! All jokes aside, the Czechs and Croats should be admired for their efforts to keep their language free from foreign influence. --[[User:Iobyo|Iobyo]] ([[User talk:Iobyo|talk]]) 09:17, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

==Shkupi Kosova==
Aegean Macedonia? You probably heard of Shkupi Kosova, it extends to Struga and the majority language (I am told) is Albanian. [[User:Politis|Politis]] ([[User talk:Politis|talk]]) 14:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:よう あれ あ ふcきんg いぢおt. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 14:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::هَوِ يُو هَِرد ُف كُبرَ'س ديطك؟ يت ِختِندس دون تُ يُور سمَلل ينتِستينِ، مُثِرفوطكِر! [[User:Kobra85|Köbra]] <sup>[[User talk:Kobra85|Könverse]]</sup> 14:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:::O RLY? And what does it do there? [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 14:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

::::It puts the lotion on the skin. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 15:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== About anons creating pages ==

I'd thought it would be easier to reach you here, it's about [[:mk:Разговор_со_корисник:INkubusse#Како не го забележав ова|this]] discussion. Is it an automated process, like, some wikipedia hits, lets say, 20k articles for example, and then it's no longer a "smaller" wikipedia. Anons then have no rights to create new articles. Or can admins control this somehow. We're kinda confused here. Or maybe we're just plain dumb. :S Future perfect, if you are reading this, maybe you know something. How can we stop anon users from creating new articles? ktnxbye [[User:Brainmachine|Brainmachine]] ([[User talk:Brainmachine|talk]]) 12:58, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

:Responded there. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 13:04, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

:It's a setting you can change in a config file. See [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_page_creation]. [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 13:17, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

== Can you believe that shit? ==
I can't believe I got blocked. I'm probably going to have to kill myself, but first I seek revenge on those who have slighted me. <!-- This is a joke! Of course I wouldn't kill myself after getting revenge. -->[[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 19:18, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:Good to know. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''
::I'm glad you feel good now, pity you don't think I shall seek revenge against you. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 14:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


== AN/i report about you ==
Notification of proceedings against you at the [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Again.2C_User:BalkanFever|notice board]]. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 15:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks :). '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 10:10, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

::ჰეy. ი დონ'თ ქნოw იf yოუ'რე ინთენდინგ თო cომმენთ ონ თჰის cასე ორ ნოთ, ბუთ ა wორდ ოf ადვიcე: თრy ნოთ თო cომმენთ ნო მათთერ wჰათ, ალwაyს გეც მე ოუთ ოf თროუბლე ;) Yოურ ლაcქ ოf ინთერესთ wილლ მაქე თჰე ფროcეედინგ ჰარდერ fორ თჰე "ბად გუyს". [[User:Kobra85|Köbra]] <sup>[[User talk:Kobra85|Könverse]]</sup> 10:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

:::ქე გი ოსთავამ დო უთრე ი აქო თრება ქე რეჩამ ნეშთო. ისთო თაქა, ფოდობრო ე აქო ფიშუვამე მაქედონსქი, აქო სლუჩაჯნო ნექოჯ ზნაე და ჯა მენი აზბუქათა :). '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 10:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

== Provocative link that shows half of Greece occupied by FYROM ==

Dear Balkinfever. You have a link on your user page [http://mondediplo.com/maps/dreamsofempire A pretty good example] that leads to an image of half of Greece under the control of FYROM (not to mention a few other nations in the region are completely engulfed). I shouldn't have to remind you that such images only confirm the accuracy of Greek complaints of active irredentism by some FYROM citizens which goes against the spirit of both US/UN resolutions that condemn such acts as "propaganda".

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.Res.300: <br />
(please add colon ':' to end of url in address bar if link fails. For some reason Wikipedia doesn't like URLs that end in a colon)

By placing such links on your website you appear to be endorsing future human rights atrocities and ethnic cleansing against 2.5 million people in Greece that identify as "Macedonian" (Greek ones) but aren't ethnically slavic nor remotely relate to FYROM. (much like citizens in FYROM before the break up of Yugoslavia identified both as "Yugoslavian" and "Macedonian")

I believe Wikipedia guidelines of proper conduct are incompatible with such images and ask that your link be immediately removed. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/209.161.239.31|209.161.239.31]] ([[User talk:209.161.239.31|talk]]) 19:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Stop trolling him, now. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 00:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

:I'm not "trolling". I think it is very offensive and inappropriate to offend millions of Greeks in the manner he has. Suppose if someone had images of half your country being occupied by another... and showed every sign of working to that goal? I doubt you would find it particularly funny.

I would recommend YOU stop trolling and let BalkanFever either justify it why it is appropriate... or remove it. If it is not removed within 72 hours I will make a formal complaint to Wikipedia's editorial board. [[Special:Contributions/209.161.230.168|209.161.230.168]] ([[User talk:209.161.230.168|talk]]) 03:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.Res.300: <br />

I look forward to your report. I'd recommend not wasting your time, and just stop now. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 03:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

:I noticed you have an ongoing relationship with BalkanFever. I just pulled this from your user page.
''I, BalkanFever, award you the Barnstar of Good Humor, for your constant hilarity on my talk page. Keep it up! BalkanFever''
:Do you think it possible this conflict of interest may have created a bias in your NPOV? The reason why I suggest this is instead of spending a minute to review my issue... you ignored it completely and harassed me (twice) to basically get lost.... on someone else's talk page? [[Special:Contributions/209.161.230.168|209.161.230.168]] ([[User talk:209.161.230.168|talk]]) 04:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

::Gia sou, whoever you are. This is a massive misunderstanding, and I must say on your part. The map in question is showing the fact that irredentist ideals in the Balkans ''overlap''. If you look at the light blue line, it shows a "Greater Greece", which includes Cyprus, European Turkey, and parts of Albania, Bulgaria, and the Republic of Macedonia.

The red line shows "Greater Serbia", the brown line "Greater Bulgaria" and so on. The point of the map, which is published by an expert neutral, reliable, verifiable source, is to make you think "What if all nationalist desires in the Balkans could be fulfilled?". The point is that they cannot, because irredentism overlaps. Balkan people, when in large nationalist groups, are, for want of a less offensive word, idiots. It's like a sickness (or fever, hence my username). That being said, I have many Balkan friends (I myself am, obviously, from the Balkans), even Greeks. Most of those Greeks even call me a simple "Macedonian" and my country "Macedonia". It's probably because they don't care about a petty dispute. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 10:25, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Wow...I was already explaining it. I had it all under control, and then YOU edit conflict me. Thanks. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 10:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Well thank ''you'', for understanding the (obvious) point of the map. But the troll wasn't going to listen to you, no matter what you said. On an aside, one of the symptoms of Balkan Fever is excessive use of five-letter acronyms. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 10:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, since you EC'd me, I'm changing my recommendation to community ban at the ANi. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 10:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Ah, this must be the revenge you were talking about! What a fool I've been. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 10:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
(outdent)lol, you're an asshole rivaling my own assholeness. I saw where you told an anon user "probably cause you suck" and then an (admin?) editor asked you about, lol, you really respond by saying "I'm pretty sure he does suck anyway." When I was reading the ANi report I fucking almost choked on my coffee. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 10:54, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I try. Laveol is a big sack o' fun. <!-- Joke, people; not meant to be demeaning --> He's too serious sometimes, and he overreacts to some things (usually my jokes). Some of the guys you've met take things too seriously as well, no? '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 11:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::Shit man, I got admins so far up my ass I have to eat two bowls of cereal for breakfast or I'd be hungry the whole morning. And then the next admin comes along, and sees all these "blocks" and says to himself "i'm going to get me some of that" and bam I got another bullshit block. I don't even get the decency of an ANi where people can badmouth me publicly, you're so lucky for even that. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 11:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

(EC) Sigh. The map shows the ambitions of the factions of the Balkans. One time ambitions, former ambitions, or current ambitions. He's explaining the meaning of his user name: "BalkanFever." As in CabinFever happens when your stuck inside for a period of time, BalkanFever happens when your in the Balkans or interested in them for a time: considering everyone there has aspirations of empire. He never once endorses one side over the other in that map. And I thought this was obvious, or I wouldn't call you a troll and laugh it off. [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 10:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

----

Dear Balkanfever, I'm not sure if I'm adding these comments in the correct location. I am new to Wikipedia so please bear with me as I better learn Wikipedia's methods.

Unfortunate your map shows the entire northern area of Greece as occupied by something called "greater macedonia". In addition your handle is "balkanfever", you show a considerable bias against Greek Macedonians with your user page news article listings (several which are inaccurate sensationalist titles from FYROM news sources), you did prior mass edits against the naming issue article without offering justifications for each... and now you expect me to take you seriously that your intent isn't occupation of Macedonia Greece, usurpation of Macedonian Greek heritage, and to direct propaganda/hate at Greeks? Consider what happened in the US when a vodka company company simply produced this ad.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2008/04/mexico-reconque.html

I'm sorry. I reject your claim of innocence and point you back to the a couple of clauses in a recent US Senate resolution condemning acts of propaganda against Greece by FYROM. (signed by Senator Obama I might add)

<blockquote>
"Whereas a television report in recent years showed students in a state-run school in FYROM still being taught that parts of Greece, including Greek Macedonia, are rightfully part of FYROM"
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Whereas, on September 13, 1995, Greece and FYROM signed a United Nations-brokered Interim Accord that, among other things, commits them to not `support claims to any part of the territory of the other party or claims for a change of their existing frontiers';
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Whereas the aforementioned acts constitute a breach of FYROM's international obligations deriving from the spirit of the United Nations Interim Accord, which provide that FYROM should abstain from any form of `propaganda' against Greece's historical or cultural heritage;
</blockquote>

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.Res.300: (Note: If the above link doesn't work please manually add a colon ":" to end of address bar)

Unless you have further points to make Balkanfever... please remove your highly offensive link within 48 hours or I will take the issue up with the Wikipeida's editorial board (as well as your general pattern of anti-Greek Macedonian behavior). [[Special:Contributions/209.161.227.67|209.161.227.67]] ([[User talk:209.161.227.67|talk]]) 15:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

:If you can't also see the "Greater Greece" in the map, then something is seriously wrong with you. I reject your claim of intelligence and/or seriousness and will kindly tell you to leave me alone. Funny how you claim to support the "interim accord", yet it states that Greece should not veto the Republic of Macedonia's entrance into international organisations. You are a hypocrite (that's a Greek word, so I know you understand it). There is nothing more to say. Go away. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 23:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

::Sorry I forgot to answer to your request earlier. The 209.* anon (who is [[User:Crossthets]]) has been warned off and will hopefully keep out now. We don't usually semi-protect talk pages without some rather serious reason. You think it'll be okay now? Cheers, --[[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 13:13, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Yeah it should be fine. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 07:03, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

== God Damn it, there's another ANi about you! ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Possible_admin_collusion_and_conflict_of_interest.3F|Here it is]] you fool. Stop harassing and conspiring against people! [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 01:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, my propaganda seems to pissing a few people off. Oh well. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fucker</font>]]''' 07:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

==Giorgos==
You probably misunderstood my comment. Some more info from the survey by Vidoeski in Koneski's book, would probably settle this map issue and provide additional information on Macedonian dialectology. I am sure that FP's version of the Vidoeski map, is as accurate as it can get--[[User:Giorgos Tzimas|Giorgos Tzimas]] ([[User talk:Giorgos Tzimas|talk]]) 11:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

:Well, Macedonian dialectology is not the most discussed subject, as you can gather. Unsurprisingly, the majority of linguists interested are the ones from the Republic of Macedonia, and not Greeks (too much politics, you know how it is). I don't think the map issue will ever be ''settled'', since there will always be randoms that come across it and get offended or something. Or just people that believe any RoM source is ''ipso facto'' unreliable. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 11:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

::You are unfortunately right on your remarks, but I am genuinely interested. With all these tension and constant bickering it becomes a trully impossible task to form an opinion. Therefore every piece of information is welcome as far as I' m concerned. I am well aware of the grievances from both sides. I think that the more we learn about the issues involved in this incredible conflict the better we understand.--[[User:Giorgos Tzimas|Giorgos Tzimas]] ([[User talk:Giorgos Tzimas|talk]]) 11:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

:::So many issues, so little interest (I mean on the part of others) For more on linguistics, try: ''The situation of the Macedonian language in Greece: sociolinguistic analysis'' by Roland Schmeiger [http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2459667] and ''Greece and European Turkey: From Religious to Linguistic Identity'' by [[Peter Trudgill]]. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 11:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks for the tip. I 've read both ages ago. Btw I think the correct spelling is "Schmieger" I've seen you mispelling it before and I am an expert in wreaking spelling havoc myself--[[User:Giorgos Tzimas|Giorgos Tzimas]] ([[User talk:Giorgos Tzimas|talk]]) 12:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

::I'll keep that in mind. Chucked it in the spell-check just to make sure. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 12:28, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

== Wow ==

In every article about FYROM for me Republic of Macedonia for you i can see you in the contributors and more i've read your page and i mean wow.Keep up the good work cause i've learned a lot from Fyrom related articles that i simply did't knew.

Don't get me wrong about FYROM i don't want to offend or insult you.[[User:TheJudge0791|TheJudge0791]] ([[User talk:TheJudge0791|talk]]) 18:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

:Umm, thanks, I guess. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 04:08, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== Comments ==

Well, you just proved my point.--[[User:Dimorsitanos|Dimorsitanos]] ([[User talk:Dimorsitanos|talk]]) 04:18, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Threatening to Ban people ==

Man, you are a trouble maker! I, per usual, am notifying you of an AN/i thread: [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Reporting_a_Threat_for_Ban_in_Violation_of_the_Banning_Concept.]].

You are a rebel (by rebel I mean jerk)! [[User:Beamathan|Beam]] 15:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

:Seems to be taken care of, by numerous admins. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 09:43, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Ottoman Turkish ==

Hi, I noticed your message at [[User talk:AdjarianLAZ]]. He is a sockpuppet, so he is currently blocked. However, I know a user ([[User:Saposcat|Saposcat]]), who would probably know the answer to your question. He is semi-retired, so if he doesn't reply to you on his talk page, you might try [[Special:EmailUser/Saposcat|emailing him]]. However, he definitely knows Ottoman Turkish. <tt class="plainlinks">[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoi]][[User talk:Khoikhoi|khoi]]</tt> 06:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:Oops, didn't realise that. Thanks. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 07:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

BTW, perhaps you could help me out with something. The [[Jegunovce]] page needs to be updated, and I noticed that someone added some info regarding Silmak (formerly Jugohrom). However, he/she included a joke in his edits (which are somewhat in comment-form instead of proper encyclopedic form), and also did not include any sources. Do you think you could help me by adding sources and updating the article? I need to know whether the plant was closed down or not, and I can't read the [http://www.opstinajegunovce.gov.mk/mk/index.html official website] unfortunately. <tt class="plainlinks">[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoi]][[User talk:Khoikhoi|khoi]]</tt> 10:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

:The official website just describes the municipality, and I don't seem to be able to click any links. Found an A1 article (in Macedonian) though, and will update the page now. The "Silni Makedonci" thing is the joke (it means "Strong Macedonians"). '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 10:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

::Ah, ok. Thank you very much. One more thing: do you know if the names are normally supposed to be capitalized or not? <tt class="plainlinks">[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoi]][[User talk:Khoikhoi|khoi]]</tt> 19:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Actually, style here on wiki seems to be not to capitalise the name of companies, because I think most companies have their names in capitals elsewhere. Fixed. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 04:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

==weird story thing==
LOL [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 12:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

== Ewa ==
Hello. I see, still I would like to see the sentence there for one simple reason. "Polish singer" is not clear, many readers can guess she is Polish, because she hails from Poland or only her parents are Polish. Ewa hails from historical Polish minority of Zaolzie region, her family lived always there, borders just changed leaving this territory in Czechoslovakia, now the Czech Republic. For comparison, Polish minority there can be compared to Hungarian one in Slovakia or German-speaking one in Südtirol, Italy. - [[User:Darwinek|Darwinek]] ([[User talk:Darwinek|talk]]) 11:46, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
: Right. Vendryne is a nice village near the ugly gray industrial town of Trinec. :) Due to this many wealthy people of Trinec built new houses in Vendryne in last years and relocated there, and this trend seems to continue. Ewa attended Polish elementary school in Vendryne (Polish Wedrynia) and is now going to attend famous Polish gymnasium (high school) in Cesky Tesin. - [[User:Darwinek|Darwinek]] ([[User talk:Darwinek|talk]]) 12:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:: I don't know her personally, she's quite younger generation than me but Ewa is a famous regional (and not only) personality. Yes, I live on the Olza, crossed it twice today. :) You're from the Republic of Macedonia? - [[User:Darwinek|Darwinek]] ([[User talk:Darwinek|talk]]) 12:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::: Nice. From what I know there is a huge Macedonian community in Australia, particularly Melbourne I think. How are your relations with huge Greek community there? :) My Greek friends from Zaolzie mention Macedonia only as FYROM and they would beat me if I would use Macedonia in front of them. :) They view your nation as bunch of revisionists and think you should give your territory to Greece. - [[User:Darwinek|Darwinek]] ([[User talk:Darwinek|talk]]) 13:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:::: Right. There are several thousands Greeks and Macedonians in the Czech Republic. Children of those forced to flee after the civil war. Patriotic as hell, which I'm fine with but I don't like their attitude towards other minorities in this country. Maybe it is because Greeks from Greece view their own minorities as obstacle. - [[User:Darwinek|Darwinek]] ([[User talk:Darwinek|talk]]) 13:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::::: Polish of course. Assimilation even accelerated after the fall of communism and the backbone of our minority have always been underlining of our uniqueness and otherness from the Czech ethnic group. So Poles there are loyal to the Czech Republic but proud Poles, many also believe in the so-called ''theory of two motherlands'', that we have one motherland in the Czech Republic, because we are Czech citizens and the second one, more or less spiritual, in Poland. Still we live in region divided in 1920 by both countries. For example in 1938-1945 our region was a part of different countries four times. Looking from 1918 even more times. :) - [[User:Darwinek|Darwinek]] ([[User talk:Darwinek|talk]]) 14:08, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Right, there is a discussion about this in Poland now but I am a fervent opposer of this fresh theory, so I'm not non-involved and couldn't deliver you a neutral point of view. :) - [[User:Darwinek|Darwinek]] ([[User talk:Darwinek|talk]]) 19:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== Comments on [[Talk:Republic of Macedonia/name]] ==

Hi

Regarding [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Republic_of_Macedonia/name&oldid=229012780 this] comment. I know is debate is pretty heated, but try and remember Wikipedia's policy on [[WP:ATTACK|Personal attacks]]. Thanks [[User:Samuell|Samuell]] <small>[[User_talk:Samuell|Lift me up or put me down]]</small> 14:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks for the reminder :) '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 12:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

==Čestitki==
{| class="messagebox standard-talk" style="border: 1px solid #CC9999; background-color: lightblue;"
|align="center"|[[Image:Krusevomonument.jpg|150px]]
|align="left" width="80%"|<font color=black>Wishing <b>[[User:{{PAGENAME}}|{{PAGENAME}}]]</b> a very happy [[Ilinden]] from <font color="blue">[[User:Raso mk|Rašo!]]</font> Have a great day! [[Image:Flag of Macedonia.svg|150px]][[Image:Flag of the Republic of Macedonia 1991-1995.svg|150px]]
|}<noinclude>

== Thanks for signing my Guestbook! ==
[[Image:Ticket (unseparated) Kurkino-Berchtesgaden.JPG|thumb|Thanks for signing my Guestbook! To futher thank you, this is one free bootleg German ticket to see [[The Dark Knight]] at any bootleg movie theater neer you![[User:Gears of War/Guestbook|<font face="family: Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="#7D0008"> '''Gears'''</font>]][[User talk:Gears of War|<font face="family: Times New Roman" size="2.3" color="#7D0008"> '''of War'''</font>]] '''2''']][[User:Gears of War/Guestbook|<font face="family: Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="#7D0008"> '''Gears'''</font>]][[User talk:Gears of War|<font face="family: Times New Roman" size="2.3" color="#7D0008"> '''of War'''</font>]] '''2''' 01:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yay! Now I can finally watch it :D '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 01:50, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
::Lol, it was really good too.[[User:Gears of War/Guestbook|<font face="family: Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="#7D0008"> '''Gears'''</font>]][[User talk:Gears of War|<font face="family: Times New Roman" size="2.3" color="#7D0008"> '''of War'''</font>]] '''2''' 01:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

== re: WT:MOSMAC ==

Hello, is there a currently ongoing discussion about this? I looked briefly, but didn't see one. Perhaps I missed it? [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 12:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

:Replied on your talk page. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 12:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

::I left a somewhat lengthy reply on my talk page. [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 13:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Oh, here's an unrelated question: how did your talk page become conquered by Australia? [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 13:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Since I'm in Australia, I decided to claim my page before someone else did. :D'''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 13:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::Makes sense ;) [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 13:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

== Tarator or Cacik? ==

Hi. Perhaps you have something useful to say about whether Cacik is an acceptable alternative name of Tarator, discussed on [[Talk:Yoghurt#Tarator vs Cacik]]. [[User:NerdyNSK|NerdyNSK]] ([[User talk:NerdyNSK|talk]]) 09:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

== Etiquette Alert ==

Hi, I'm letting you know I've filed an etiquette alert considering you at [[Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:BalkanFever]]. --[[User_talk:Avg|<span style="color:#9090f0;background:#ccf">&nbsp;<span style="background:#99f">&nbsp;<span style="background:#66f">&nbsp;<span style="background:#11f"><b>Avg</b></span>&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</span>]] 18:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

== 2008 South Ossetia War talk archive ==

Hi. I at first thought about archiving half the page, but then I changed mind and only archived discussions made on 8 August, leaving all 9 August discussions on the main talk page (having in mind to use the same archive page later as the days pass). If you think this is not helpful or if you can do something better please feel free to revert me. I don't intend to archive more now, and thanks for letting me know. [[User:NerdyNSK|NerdyNSK]] ([[User talk:NerdyNSK|talk]]) 12:32, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Ossetia ==
I'm not going to unilateraly move it because of the reasons you've stated. Unfortunately with such as busy article with so many editors, it will be hard to reach a consensus. We will see in the next few days if this war gets even bigger, so if it does then we can re-name it and if it doesn't then it's fine. If the war expands, then we may have to make a tough decision without a supermajority and change the name of the article to reflect reality. --[[User:Tocino|Tocino]] 05:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

==South Ossetia==

Yeh it does, however I oppose the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. This is just Russia showing how big and hard it still is because it hasn't had a fight in a while. Also it wants to punish Georgia for leaving the CIS and becoming friendly with EU/NATO/USA [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 08:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:What do you mean what NATO did in the 1990s? [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 08:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Fark aff ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_Slavic_languages&diff=prev&oldid=230972970 THIEF] [[User:3rdAlcove|3rdAlcove]] ([[User talk:3rdAlcove|talk]]) 09:09, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

: *hides* '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 09:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Macedonian translation ==

Hi, BalkanFever! I'm looking for some help by a Macedonian speaker to get [[:mk:%D0%90%D1%98%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%85%D1%82_%D0%A4%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D1%84%D1%83%D1%80%D1%82|this article]] a bit improved. I used some article from the MK page as a template and tinkered around it. Since I have rough understanding of the Cyrillic alphabet and almost no understanding of the Macedonian language I'd appreciate one or two improvements on the article. You can find inspirations [[:Eintracht Frankfurt|here]]. If you have questions or need any help on your project's translations, just let me know! Thank you. [[User:-Lemmy-|-Lemmy-]] ([[User talk:-Lemmy-|talk]]) 12:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:No problem. I'll translate some of the passage tomorrow, as I'm a bit pressed for time right now. Cheers, '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 12:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
::Great work. Thank you! [[User:-Lemmy-|-Lemmy-]] ([[User talk:-Lemmy-|talk]]) 11:30, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== removing instead of archiving ==

Heh, I'm too afraid of being too forward and removing things that might actually be useful or that don't deserve removing :) . Also, if you later need to refer to the actions of a disruptive user, it's easier to point at archived discussions than at removed ones. --[[User:Enric Naval|Enric Naval]] ([[User talk:Enric Naval|talk]]) 15:25, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:Fair enough :). '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 09:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

What's with requesting editors to "use # before signature"? [[User:3rdAlcove|3rdAlcove]] ([[User talk:3rdAlcove|talk]]) 17:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:It gives a number so that it's easier to count.
#Like so. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 08:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::Ehm, nevermind. I'd tell you what I mixed up but it'd make me look even more stupid. [[User:3rdAlcove|3rdAlcove]] ([[User talk:3rdAlcove|talk]]) 10:40, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Lol , OK then. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 10:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Why "disputed"? ==

Hey Balkan, I was wondering why so many Macedonian articles are being disputed? Is the disputation coming from Macedonians or Bulgarian/Greek users? Look at the following:

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Macedonian Maks]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegean_Macedonians#Human_rights_issues Aegean Maks]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonians_in_Albania Albo Maks].. and others

Also, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonism Macedonism]] is horribly written. It talks about the situation of the Balkans in the 1900s not the actual national awakening of the Macedonians. It needs work. [[User:Mactruth|Mactruth]] ([[User talk:Mactruth|talk]]) 21:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Just to give a little light on the last issue - Macedonism was recently merged with Macedonian nationalism despite the warnings from some users that these were actually two different terms. --'''[[User:Laveol|<font color="#007700">L<font color="#009900">a<font color="#00aa00">v<font color="#00cc00">e</font>o</font>l</font></font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Laveol|T]]</sup>''' 21:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

:You'll have to search the page history to find out who disputes them, but I suspect the latter. Most people chuck a tag without opening a discussion, maybe thinking it will miraculously fix itself. If there hasn't been a discussion or the dispute has been resolved, just remove the tags. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 10:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

::About the other thing, Macedonian nationalism and Macedonism refer to the same thing (nowadays they have mostly a negative connotation, as with all nationalism), but Macedonism is more of a neologism, as Philip Baird Shearer said. Mactruth, feel free to improve the article. I too think it needs more focus, since "Macedonian nationalism" used to be at the title "National awakening of the ethnic Macedonians" so that ''was'' the original purpose. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 10:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Hypocricy redux ==

Talking about hypocricy, you claim exactly above that some things should be just deleted (obviously it applies only to those you don't like) and then you revert me when I did exactly what you suggest.--[[User_talk:Avg|<span style="color:#9090f0;background:#ccf">&nbsp;<span style="background:#99f">&nbsp;<span style="background:#66f">&nbsp;<span style="background:#11f"><b>Avg</b></span>&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</span>]] 08:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yawn. You're removing it because you don't like that English-language sources use "Republic of Macedonia" or simply "Macedonia". That and you find "Yunan" offensive, but then again, you use "Skopian" and "Fyromian" all the time, so why should I give a shit? '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 08:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
::Also, there's only one [[c]] in hypocrisy. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 08:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:::But of ''course'' you'd know that. It is a [[wikt:hypocrisy|"Macedonian"]] word after all. [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 09:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Any Greek should know that σ becomes s, not c. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 09:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Anal, anyone? [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 10:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Double entendre, anybody? '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 10:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::You just know. [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 10:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

== Junanci ==
Samo licemjere ne podnosim. Ovo nije dostojno Sokrata ni drugih. Sramota na što spadoše . --[[User:Aradic-es|Aradic-es]] ([[User talk:Aradic-es|talk]]) 09:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

:English, please? [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 07:28, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

::As I have yet to receive a reply from Aradic, would BF care to do the honours? [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 08:40, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Did you ignore what I said about my Croatian skills? I understand it fairly well, but my translation won't make much sense, so you'll probably misinterpret it. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 08:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Just give it a shot. [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 09:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::Well? [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 13:47, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

approximately:
{{quote|I just can't stand the [[hypocrit]]s.This is not at the level of Socrates. it is shameful on what did they(Yunans, btw) come.}}
--[[User:Aradic-es|Añtó&#124; Àntó]] ([[User talk:Aradic-es|talk]]) 12:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

:I asked for an ''English'' translation, not this shit. By the way, one of you says it's Croatian while the other claims it's "Macedonian". Which of you Slavs is telling the truth? [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 22:06, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

::Ja sam ja, divlji Bil, prezivam se............'''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 10:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

==[[Cinema of Macedonia]]==
Hi could you fill this out into the fuller article it deserves thanks. I've also created [[Template:CinemaofMacedonia]] as with other countries [[User:Blofeld of SPECTRE| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">'''''The Bald One'''''</font>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Blofeld of SPECTRE| <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat</font></font color> ]]</sup> 18:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:Will do. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 05:39, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question from an Ionian ==

Would you mind translating [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aradic-es&diff=232863798&oldid=229958922 this] comment of yours? Cheers. [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 16:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

:"I want to ask you: do you hate Greeks as a nation (ethnic group), or just the hypocrites? They're not ''all'' bad people....<small>Sorry, my Croatian probably sucks</small>." '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 06:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::It doesn't actually say "Ionians"; that would be "Jonci". And maybe you should actually read the wiktionary pages that you link to - you might learn a thing or two. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 06:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::So ''Junanci'' means "Greeks"? In which language? [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 07:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::::It's not an actual word bre. Call it a loan if you want, a Slavicisation of the Turkish word <small>or Persian, ultimately Greek, blah blah blah....</small>. It means "one from ''Junanska''", which itself is borrowing the stem (Junan from Yunan) and translating the suffix (like in a calque); -stan and -ska both meaning the same thing (-ia in Greek and Latin). '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 07:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::In other words, you were merely parroting the pejorative epithet coined by your Croat comrade. Got it. [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 08:35, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::Since you seem to know your spelling it's time to go to the actual meaning of the word. I'm sure your definition of hypocrites is quite large, when Greeks are concerned. Just to clarify since you've already labelled me a hypocrite, do you think it's okay to hate me and do you label me "bad people"? --[[User_talk:Avg|<span style="color:#9090f0;background:#ccf">&nbsp;<span style="background:#99f">&nbsp;<span style="background:#66f">&nbsp;<span style="background:#11f"><b>Avg</b></span>&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</span>]] 08:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Don't be silly, you (Avg) can't be "bad people" since that's a plural. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 08:18, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

::::I've noticed that no one has signed yet. Can you feel the love? <small>I think you hate it, deep inside.</small> [[User:3rdAlcove|3rdAlcove]] ([[User talk:3rdAlcove|talk]]) 10:22, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::Well I didn't come here for love, I'll tell you that much. <small>Guess I'll have to try harder.</small> '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 20:45, 26 August 2008

::::::I suppose I ''could'' sign it, given the right atmosphere. <small>I'm open to [[bribery|persuasion]].</small> [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 10:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::Do you take burek? '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 11:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

::::::::Is it thick and greasy? [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 11:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::Indeed. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 11:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== aromanian help ==

Hi, i see that you can speak aromanian. Can you help me finding the [[Saranda]] name in aromanian, because there is a slight minority in the town and the name should be added to the lead? Thanks[[User:Arditbido|balkanian]] ([[User talk:Arditbido|talk]]) 14:12, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

:I doubt it's any different from the Albanian < Greek. [[User:Kékrōps|·ΚΕΚΡΩΨ·]] ([[User talk:Kékrōps|talk]]) 14:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

::It would be Saranda, maybe Sarandã. I doubt you would be able to find it on the internet anywhere though. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 11:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Macedonian History in question==

Zdravo BalkanFever. Nekoj ja izbrisa slikata IlindenFlag svg.png za koja nie Makedoncite tolku se borevme da ostane vo [[Flags of the Republic of Macedonia]] poradi copyright, a Bugarot Jingiby postavi link vo na bugarskata partija VMRO-BND deka oni go koristat toa zname, a u stvari: 1. oni koristat drugo takvo zname so natpis 'VMRO-BND' 2. jas go kreirav toa zname i mu staviv copyright kako 'own work'.
Ke mozes li da prezemes nesto? Golem pozdrav

PS. Ti moderator li bese tuka ili greska sum? [[User:Cukiger|Cukiger]] ([[User talk:Cukiger|talk]]) 02:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

:Stvarno ne znam za copyright i takvi nešta. Najdobro e da odiš do [[WP:ANI]] za celiot problem i vidi što kje se sluči tamu. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 06:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

== a discussion of hypothetical situations which doesn't add anything to the article ==

* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_Slavic_languages&diff=233299857&oldid=233299266] - Are you insane??? Before I added this ''very'' important paragraphs, Zocky reverted one of my edits with a summary implying ''just that'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_Slavic_languages&diff=228712346&oldid=228696430]. Some Serb linguists like [[Pavle Ivić]] even tried to list the common "Serbo-Croatian" isoglosses, but all of them have eventually failed the eye of scrutiny! The fact that this "Serbo-Croatian" grouping is completely arbitrary and does not constitute a genetic node, i.e. that there was never a stage in which there existed an ancestor dialect of all Čakavian, Kajkavian and Štokavian speeches is a '''very important''' one. --[[User:Ivan Štambuk|Ivan Štambuk]] ([[User talk:Ivan Štambuk|talk]]) 11:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

:Yes OK, your explanation makes sense. Maybe you want to word it differently and cite a few sources? '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 11:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
::And I still don't think ''all'' of that should be in the intro. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 11:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

== Selam ==

Hi Emre. I just wanted to ask, do you know any Ottoman Turkish? '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 11:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:Hi, What do you mean as Ottoman Turkish? Craftsman or Sultan? I didn't understand completely... [[User:Isimsizzorbebe|*** Эɱ®εč¡κ ***]]<sup>[[User Talk:Isimsizzorbebe|and his friend]]</sup> 07:18, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::I meant do you have any knowledge of the [[Ottoman Turkish language]] (Osmanlıca)? 08:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:::i can't think now... Both are resemble to each other... [[User:Isimsizzorbebe|*** Эɱ®εč¡κ ***]]<sup>[[User Talk:Isimsizzorbebe|and his friend]]</sup> 18:26, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Your awful revert of Sharr Mountains ==

Your awful and biased revert of the article on the Sharr Mountains on the Kosovo pages will be changed and I hereby submit my protest at your silly changes. The Sharr Mountains are located in two Albanian-majority territories (Albania and Kosovo), thus Albanian takes precedence and so-called 'Macedonian.' You are hereby warned to stop your biased reverts. --[[User:Alchaemia|alchaemia]] ([[User talk:Alchaemia|talk]]) 18:36, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

:WTF? '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 08:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Macedonia on Kosovo ==

Thank you, BalkanFever. It certainly looks more useful than what we had in place, and so I took the liberty of replacing the article entry with your write-up, giving credit where it's due in the edit summary. Best, --[[User:Mareklug|Mareklug]] <sup>[[User talk:Mareklug|<b>talk</b>]]</sup> 06:55, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Oggs ==

This is a reply to your email (in Macedonian): Еве, арен, ти како си? :)

Добро е што ме потсети за изговориве, затоа што и тоа имам во план веќе некое време (како и милион други работи). Знам и можам, само не знам дали сум компетентен за таа работа (со гласот, со интонацијата...). Види го [[:Image:Mk-Makedonski jazik.ogg|изговорот]] на [[Macedonian language|македонски јазик]]; that little bastard is me, but don't tell anyone. :P Сепак, сигурно ќе биде подобро од српски хахаха, многу се смееме за тоа тука! Шега на страна, не можам да дозволам странците да слушаат нешто на што тука се смееме, уште веднаш ќе почнам со „рикординг“! ;) Поздрав. --[[User:INkubusse|iNkubusse]]<sup>[[User talk:INkubusse|<i>?</i>]]</sup> 12:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

:Ок, еве го и првото чедо: [[:commons:Image:Mk-Republika Makedonija.ogg]]. Добро ли е? Не знам зошто се јавуваат тие три пречки т-к, т-к... Добар ми е микрофонот... Можеби при конверзијата wav-ogg, бидејќи немам снимач директно во .ogg. Ако имаш, те молам препорачај. --[[User:INkubusse|iNkubusse]]<sup>[[User talk:INkubusse|<i>?</i>]]</sup> 15:48, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

::Фала многу! За тие пречки немам појма, ама не е толку битно. Уште еднаш фала. :) '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 23:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Додадов уште неколку, види [[:commons:Category:Macedonian pronunciation]]. Планирам уште многу да додадам, добро ќе ни дојдат. Патем, нема зошто ти да се заблагодаруваш: го правам тоа ''за нас''! Ти може да дадеш еден изговор на [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA:SA]], ама на амерички. :D --[[User:INkubusse|iNkubusse]]<sup>[[User talk:INkubusse|<i>?</i>]]</sup> 03:23, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Браво бе човек! Ај ќе ги додадам. РЅ: Оxрид во МФА ќе биде ли /ohrid/ или /ohrit/ ? Звучи како [[Final obstruent devoicing]]. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 03:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

:::::Да ти кажам, тоа размислував баш додека го снимав! На македонски се вика „обезвучување“ на согласка на крајот од зборот и тоа важи за повеќето зборови, воопшто (леб -> леп, снег -> снек, итн). Веројатно тоа важи и за Охрид (за зборот рид исто така важи обезвучувањето). Не дека намерно сакаме д да се слуша како т, ама се слуша, што да му правиме. :) Значи, јас не сум експерт за ИПА и затоа не знам што да ти кажам, ама знам дека д-то на крај се слуша како т. Од друга страна, ако по зборот „Охрид“ има збор што почнува со звучна согласка (пр. Охрид '''д'''аде жртви...), обично се изговараат слеано двете звучни согласки, односно ОхриД. Ај да не се врткам околу едното исто, да ти кажам право - не знам. :) --[[User:INkubusse|iNkubusse]]<sup>[[User talk:INkubusse|<i>?</i>]]</sup> 05:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

::::::Добро, ќе го ставам како /t/ бидејќи така се слуша. Гледам важи само на крајот на зборот: (леб /lɛp/, а лебот /lɛbɔt/) а исто така и пред безвучни самогласки: /gruefski/. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 05:42, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

:::::::Да, токму така. ;) Ќе снимам сега уште неколку имиња на градови, ама сигурно има и уште нешто. Те молам кажи ми ако ти текнува нешто друго за снимање (само направи ми листа, ќе ја средам). --[[User:INkubusse|iNkubusse]]<sup>[[User talk:INkubusse|<i>?</i>]]</sup> 14:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Еј, провери ги моите нови подигнувања на Ризницата и додади ги на соодветните статии (не сакам да експериментирам со ИПА). И уште еднаш да ти кажам, направи ми листа од сè што сакаш да чуеш. ;) --[[User:INkubusse|iNkubusse]]<sup>[[User talk:INkubusse|<i>?</i>]]</sup> 17:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

:Епа, само имиња на градови и луѓе требат МФА, а реките, планините итн. нека ги имат ogg-те со кирилицата, како што си направил [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stone_Bridge_(Skopje)&diff=236802054&oldid=231301755 тука]. Ќе создавам листа наскоро; повеќето ќе биде градови и луѓе. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 08:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

::Ок, провери ги подигнувањата. ;) Ги снимив сите за 10 минути, но ги подигав неколку саати... :( Се тресам од замор... :S --[[User:INkubusse|iNkubusse]]<sup>[[User talk:INkubusse|<i>?</i>]]</sup> 20:11, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Ги ставам сега. Едно прашање: РАДмила шекеРИНска или шеКЕринска? Снимал си го првото, и нормално ти ќе знаеш, само секогаш мислев беше второто. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 05:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

::::ШекеРИНска, тоа е изговорот на ова презиме. Македонското правило на ''третиот слог од лево кон десно'' важи само за изворните македонски зборови (и тоа не баш за сите); странските имиња се читаат најчесто како што се читаат во оригиналот. Земи го како пример Александар. :) Една професорка во основно ме викаше АлЕксандар хаха. :D Патем, фала ти за ''микрофонот''! :P Ако се потребни уште снимки, направи уште една листа, па после да можеш да ме наградиш цело студио! :D --[[User:INkubusse|iNkubusse]]<sup>[[User talk:INkubusse|<i>?</i>]]</sup> 13:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

==Russia and the Caucasus==

yeh I would lol [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 10:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

==Language policy of SFRY==

It is late but now we are having source [http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pdffiles/PUB159.pdf] . In first communist Yugoslavia constitution official languages are: Croatian, Macedonia, Serbian and Slovenian + Hungarian in Vojvodina and Albanian on Kosovo.--[[User:Rjecina|Rjecina]] ([[User talk:Rjecina|talk]]) 23:20, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

==Political corpse==
Thank you, chap! :) Yes, I have simultaneously made a Russian version of the article. --[[User:Pglukhov|Supernova]] ([[User talk:Pglukhov|talk]]) 09:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

==Question==
Hello Balkan, sega gledam vo vrska so mojot pretposleden komentar na [[Talk:National_Liberation_War_of_Macedonia|stranicata za razgovor na NOB]] - jas ne te obvinuvam tuka, tuku naprotiv tebe ti se obrakjam za pomosh i mislenje. Sakam da mi kazesh shto mislish za problemot. Jas potroshiv tolku vreme sobiranje informacii za da napravam ubava opshirna statija, i kolegata Kobra samo doagja i ja pravi statijata grda. Vidi go rasporedot na sliki i strukturata na anegovata verzija. Navistina neznam shto mu smeta, se odnesuva mnogu neracionalno, kako namerno da go pravi ova. Te molam za mislenje. I would ask you to visit the history page of [[National Liberation War of Macedonia]]. I spend so much time making this article, and this user [[User:Köbra|Köbra]] comes and vandalizes the whole text of the article and excludes valuable photos. I would like your opinion on the subject. Regards. --[[User:Revizionist|Revizionist]] ([[User talk:Revizionist|talk]]) 00:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

:Izvini što sum zafaten ovie dena; nemam vreme da čitam dve celi statii za NOB. Navistina ne svakjam kako možat sliki da bidat tooolku važni, ama pak, ne sum gledal. Isto taka, grdo/ubavo ne e glavna tema vo enciklopedička diskusija. Gledaj kaj ''informaciite''. Dali toa što sakaš da stoi vo statijata e od neutralna gledna točka. Dali Kobra ima izbrišeno važni informacii, ili samo zborovi - t.e. dali informaciite ušte stojat, samo vo pokratka forma? Dali izvorite se neutralni? Ova treba sebesi da se prašuvaš. Ili možeš da prašuvaš nekoj korisnik koj znae za borbi da gi čita dvete verzii. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:BalkanFever/no|<font color="#F62817">not a fan? say so!</font>]]</sup> 06:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

==MKD==

If something new comes up I'll edit that first and see what you think of it first. But I don't think there is much I could add at the moment. Thanks [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 14:25, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

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:Can't be arsed voting. Just tell me how it goes. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 08:34, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== Sources ==

Hi. I was wondering if you know of any sources from purblished academics who support the Macedonian position in the naming dispute in terms of historical rights, the non-Greekness of Macedonia, etc [[User:Hxseek|Hxseek]] ([[User talk:Hxseek|talk]]) 07:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
: I don;t know what your stance on this issue is. My great area of interest is early medieval Balkan history and 'ethnogenesis'. Basically I want to make the [[Macedonia Naming Dispute]] article more neutral, which seems to always be an uphill struggle. [[User:Hxseek|Hxseek]] ([[User talk:Hxseek|talk]]) 09:03, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

LOL. Majtap. Does that not mean " a mess" ? So you are a mixture of everything ? [[User:Hxseek|Hxseek]] ([[User talk:Hxseek|talk]]) 10:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== MPO ==


I am trying to get in contact with the Board of Directors of the organizations. It seems when they were founded in 1922 (by immigrants who mostly fled in 1903, before macedonia was liberated), many of the people were subscribing to the Bulgarian-Macedonian paradigm, which at that time probably meant more Slav-Macedonian, as the main purpose was to differentiate themselves from the Greeks. This held for a while, but started to fall apart in 1945 after Macedonia became an independent country, then many of the MPO started to realize that they don't have all that much in common with the Bulgarians after all, and now they had their own independent country they much more preferred to identify with. By the 1980s they were almost completely clear of pro-bulgarian sentiments and ever since are fervent supporters of separate and independent Macedonian nation and republic.

Anyway, this is mostly anecdotal knowledge, and it would take a lot of research to put this properly sourced in the article, but for now some useful information can be extracted from their web site www.macedonian.org. They have done some admirable charity work in Macedonia. [[User:Capricornis|Capricornis]] ([[User talk:Capricornis|talk]]) 18:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It is unfortunate that our diaspora has been so fractured (btw, the United Macedonian Diaspora needs work :). The Macedonians from the Greek part after 1924 had all their names changed to Greek ones, under the Metaxas dictatorship. Some of them changed them back when they immigrated, but most of them did not want to go through the administrative hassle. There are way more Greek and Bulgarian editors on wikipedia, so going head-to-head with them is not the best option. There is lot of POV pushing and weasel words, but a lot can be done by editing the less controversial articles, and adding more articles about the current R.Macedonia. f course, if there is blatant POV and propaganda in Macedonian articles feel free to edit them, and if the 'other' side gangs up and uses vandalism and superior numbers, just start reporting them to all administrators, admin boards, arbitration, etc. [[User:Capricornis|Capricornis]] ([[User talk:Capricornis|talk]]) 18:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== Macedonia ==

The article says that their source in Albanian parties in Macedonia told them how Macedonia will recognise Kosovo on September 22 and all that in order to solve the current parliamentary crisis. It says that PM Gruevski agreed for this move in order to maintain internal stability because the DPA wouldn't support him otherwise. It also says how the PM will have troubles to explain that to the public which is against such a move but that it will buy him some points regarding the name dispute with Greece. But all in all it's all based on "the source refused to be named", "our sources within Albanian parties" etc. Cheers, --[[User:Avala|Avala]] ([[User talk:Avala|talk]]) 10:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


== [[Bulgarians]] ==
Ги гледаш муабетите во последниот дел на страницата за дискусија? [[User:Capricornis|Capricornis]] ([[User talk:Capricornis|talk]]) 17:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

aha :) [[User:Capricornis|Capricornis]] ([[User talk:Capricornis|talk]]) 19:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== funny ==
I just read your entire talk page. i was crackin' up from laughter.. i forgot that wikipedia contribution can be entertaining [[User:Capricornis|Capricornis]] ([[User talk:Capricornis|talk]]) 19:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== Your Polish alphabet ==

I think you have a contradiction on your subpage [[User:BalkanFever/Polish_Cyrillic_Alphabet]]. In the charts, you have Л for /w/ and Љ for /l/, but in the description underneath the charts you have it reversed. I assume one of them is a mistake. If it were up to me, I'd say that Л for /w/ and Љ for /l/ makes more sense because it's in line with how Russian handles things (their "l" sound is actually more like /w/ than like /l/, so when borrowing foreign names they use ЛЬ for /l/.

I found you because I have a few Macedonian-related articles on my watchlist; I'm not that knowledgeable about the content but I can do vandalism reversion and reversion of uneducated unuseful edits. I'm an American of half-Greek descent, but that isn't really the reason why I decided to start watching Macedonia articles ... I just tend to drift from topic to topic every few months. Some of the article I edit are things I'm knowledgeable about, but a lot of them aren't. Anyway, nice to meet you. ''<FONT COLOR="#800000"><B>[[User:Soap|Soap]]</B></FONT>'' <sup>[[User talk:Soap|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Soap|Contributions]]</sub> 01:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

== What are you, dense? ==

''(cur) (last) 00:46, 21 September 2008 BalkanFever (Talk | contribs) (145,748 bytes) (reveritng poorly sourced (speculation only) crap about macedonia. that's it from me for today. if idiots like alchaemia and the anons revert, get rid of them) (undo)''

Insults such as these have no place in Wikipedia, and you're kindly asked to stop the charade. --[[User:Alchaemia|alchaemia]] ([[User talk:Alchaemia|talk]]) 01:08, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

:I must add, ''What are you, dense?'' is a really polite way to point out others' insults. --[[User:INkubusse|iNkubusse]]<sup>[[User talk:INkubusse|<i>?</i>]]</sup>

::First off, don't cry, since you randomly attacked me a few sections up. Second, what charade? Macedonia should not be called an "imminent recogniser", because the amount of speculation in the sources of the (single, I may add) source is laughable. Compare this with the Macedonian MFA, quotes (or lack thereof) from Macedonian politicians, and news from Macedonian media, and what do you see? iNkubusse, would you like to help out? You may as well, since you're actually in Macedonia, and I'm getting tired searching all Macedonian media just to prove something to trolls that won't listen anyway. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 07:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Sure, I can at least try to be helpful. Just tell me what to do exactly. :) I mean, what kind of quotes to look for. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if this shitty state recognises Kosovo imminently, but I also wouldn't include that in the article, because the sources are weak. Crvenkovski probably just got drunk and God knows what happened. :P --[[User:INkubusse|iNkubusse]]<sup>[[User talk:INkubusse|<i>?</i>]]</sup> 11:19, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Basically "Македонија (утре ќе) ја признава Косово." or something to that effect, preferably from Nikola, Branko or Antonio, or anyone else ''reliable'' (in this context) i.e. not Ali, Menduh or Imer. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 12:03, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

:::::Oh, that of course goes for the exact opposite too. '''[[User:BalkanFever|<font color="black">Balkan</font>]][[User talk:BalkanFever|<font color="#008">Fever</font>]]''' 12:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

== Gruevski has spoken ==

Gruevski has spoken on the issue of Kosovo and recognition speculations - [http://www.makfax.com.mk/look/novina/article.tpl?IdLanguage=10&IdPublication=2&NrArticle=125587&NrIssue=771&NrSection=10]. Could you update the article? Thanks, --[[User:Avala|Avala]] ([[User talk:Avala|talk]]) 18:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

== Gruevski has spoken ==

Gruevski has spoken on the issue of Kosovo and recognition speculations - [http://www.makfax.com.mk/look/novina/article.tpl?IdLanguage=10&IdPublication=2&NrArticle=125587&NrIssue=771&NrSection=10]. Could you update the article? Thanks --[[User:Avala|Avala]] ([[User talk:Avala|talk]]) 18:03, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

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