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Paul Elgin

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A previous version of this page was speedily deleted at least 4 times. The rewrite is less obviously promotional, but there is still no notability. Some celebrities may have worn these clothes by Paul Elgin, but I don't see awards or industry recognition. There is also a big WP:COI as the User:Htentceo is behind [[1]], which is associated with the clothing line. Clubmarx (talk) 01:17, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

• Keep I have had this page reviewed by another Wikipedia moderator, and was given the ok, provided we provided sources and references, and remove suggestive advertising. Wikipedia's policy does not require an individual to be POPULAR in order for an article to be written; they require NOTABILITY, which was provided within the article, with references / cross references. There is no direct correlation between us and Mr. Paul Elgin. Authors do reserve the right to create a username of their choosing, as long as any article they contribute does not show bias or support. This article about Mr. Paul Elgin is completely unbiased, factual, and verifyable. We feel that it is unfair for one or a group of individuals to determine a person or company's value, accomplishments, influence, or recognition soley based on that group or individual's independent knowledge of the person of subject within the article; it should be based on facts. If the content of the article is supported by references, we believe the article should qualify. Whether or not Mr. Elgin has received any awards or A-list recognition should not have a bearing on whether or not the things his companies have accomplished are factual, unbiased, and supported. Please consider this article for inclusion, as we see that it fits all of Wikipedia's authoring guidelines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Htentceo (talk • contribs) 02:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete and salt. Article fails to meet basic requirement of WP:N, which is significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject. A low level credit in a video game, a bunch of myspace pages with obvious COI, and a link to the subject's own website don't qualify. RayAYang (talk) 05:14, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
• Note that the first keep comment is from the article creator. --Clubmarx (talk) 05:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

• Keep And so is the third...

Here are a list of INDEPENDENT references. Its funny how people will try to discredit an individual's accomplishments and / or notability based on lack of knowledge on the subject. The "low level" credit in a game sold world wide for Playstation to me seems to be an oxymoron. We fail to see the COI in the myspace references, but even with those excluded, there are far more references provided. Please review below:

There is an article on Paul Elgin's company, Catch 22 Clothing, on the World Westside Magazine's website, [2].

There is also credits given to Catch 22 Clothing within the Traxxpad game for the Sony Playstation game console, on MobyGames.com [3].

Catch 22 Clothing had a full 2 page advertisement in worldwide circulated Don Diva magazine, September, 2007 issue, pg 55.

2 music videos, Mistah F.A.B.'S "Ghost Ride the Whip" video, and Haji Springer's "Haji's Back" video, both aired nationally on MTV2, show Catch 22 Clothing's eyewear product being either worn by the artist themselves or showcased in the video.

Mr. Elgin also has a profile on IMDB.COM [4]. His IMDB StarMETER, which directly indicates a celebrity's popularity amongst IMDB users, is up 311% since the week of October 5th, 2008.

A google search of Paul Elgin corroborates all of these references. Nothing special is needed to search for Mr. Elgin in the google search bar; just "Paul Elgin". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Htentceo (talk • contribs) 05:39, 14 October 2008 (UTC)