User talk:Fantasia 15

I oppose this deletion. It may need some HTML adjustments, but beyond that, all of the information inthis article are true and correct.

Veracity isn't the issue, notability is. However, you'll make more headway if you make your argument at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stevanna Jackson (2nd nomination).--Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Dear Fabrictramp,

Although, your point is well taken, I feel compelled to point out that notability is open to many different interpetations ... what you may consider notable, I may not consider notable or remarkable, thus Notability is and can be construed as subjective. Under the articles for deletion, one should not base their opinion on their own personal biases or preferences ... which undoubtedly makes a tremendous amount of other articles on Wikipedia trivial & indiscriminate.

She may not be notable enough for your disposition, however, Stevanna Jackson may inspire a whole generation of young African American teens to strive to be the best they can be. Not just in the arts but in striving to achieve personal excellence in education. Aside from being related to one of the most famous entertainment families in the world, she has made amazing accomplishments on her own through hard work and tenacity. If you can tell me why the other hosts from The Disney movie surfers are notable enough to have their own wiki article then I will let this issue go. But, if Notability is the only basis of proposed deletion, then I must say, all the wikipedia admins have their work cut for them on deletions.

Stevanna has been working as an actress since she is four years old. Beyond being a current host of Disney's Movie Surfers, she has worked with some of the biggest industry producers like Lorne Michaels, Tom Warner & Marcy Carsy. She was also in a live Fox special with Santana. Stevanna also has been in Seventh Heaven as a guest star as Marie, featured on The Tracy Morgan Show as Simone, and a couple of episodes of Zoey 101 as Tasha. There is still lot of other body of work which was not included in the Wikipedia page, however, you had some very basic information. She actually has had quite a facinating story in her young life, but we all have to wait for the book to come out, when it is time.

You may not be one of her fans, but she has a fan base, and a few of them have even started a few myspaces for her. She is just an artist who is under the radar, who will undoubltly make a much greater mark, but Wikipedia should have enough foresight and prudence to be able to recognize the good ones from the great ones.

Currently, Stevanna Jackson is attending Harvard University, and when you inevitably will redo her wikipage, lets hope that Wikipedia will continue to stay relevent and notable.

I am sincerely,

Yours,

Lola

Wikipedia has a standard for notability, which you can read at WP:Notability and WP:BIO. These are not my personal standards, but the consensus of many thousands of editors. If you disagree with those standards, the place to take it up is on those talk pages.

As to "why the other hosts from The Disney movie surfers are notable enough to have their own wiki", WP:OTHERSTUFF might be an instructive read.

As I said above, the place to make your arguments for keeping the article is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stevanna Jackson (2nd nomination). I'd suggest you read WP:BIO first so you can make the strongest possible argument there. I would be thrilled if you can show how this article meets (or can be made to meet) the requirements of WP:BIO -- Wikipedia is better when we have quality, well-written, sourced articles that meet the guidelines. But please make that argument at the correct place.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 13:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Well ... you say it is not your standard, yet, you are the one nominating the article for deletion repeatedly ... Go ahead, all this is so trivial and infantile by comparison to so many other issues in life, the real world. Maybe you just take this whole wikiworld of yours way too seriously ... I am just disappointed in the way this has been handled!!!! I really thought very highly of wikipedia, but now I understand how it works.

I am not sure what you mean by well written, there is lots of articles in the wiki pages that are not well written ... and what do you mean by correct place?If you go by guidelines then none of the other kids on Disney movie surfers with wikipages meet it.

Be thrilled to get rid of the great kids on wikipedia and keep all the junky, mediocre kids ... afterall, this world has to stay corrupt and depraved.

I wish you the best,

Lola

There Fabrictramp ... I did your speedy deletion .... so you can go be a happy fabric tramp. let see if the cubs ever get their act together .... Lola

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