Talk:Racism in Asia

Racism in the Philippines

How come there is no reference about racism in the Philippines? If no reference can be provided, then it should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.111.41.81 (talk) 07:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

When I first saw this article in the new pages list, I took it to mean discrimination done by non-Asians against Asians. However, it's the exact opposite. I propose a less ambiguous title, such as Racial discrimination performed by Asians or something like that... -- T.o.n.y 13:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. Asian-Asian racism is very common, and this article is appropriate. DOR (HK) (talk) 05:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)DOR (HK) Feb 13, 2008.

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The title is ambiguous, but I'm not sure "performed" is the word. - Rockhurst_singer 13:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Survey and discussion

• Rename to Racism in Asia, to include both racial discrimination by Asians toward non-Asians and by non-Asians living in Asia toward Asians...? (And/or merge with Racism?)  Regards, David Kernow 19:13, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Comment: As currently envisioned ("a discrimination by Asians against people of non-Asian origin in the world") the page should probably move to Anti-foreigner sentiment in Asia or Nationalism in Asia -- but is there no room for the inclusion of Asian-on-Asian racism? e.g. Japanese v Chinese or Indigenous populations? Thai v Cambodian or Shan? etc. etc. etc.? Or we do already have a separate page for that? Ewlyahoocom 09:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

David's idea makes sense to me. —Nightstallion (?) 11:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I can't help but wonder why this article exists at all, but setting that aside, what about racism among asians? For example, Japanese and Koreans, or Luzon and Mindanao Filipinos? Technically, that is also 'Racism in Asia'. I am pushing the question of 'Why at all?' a little harder than the latter, though... I'm thinking merge with Racism. --Oceanhahn 12:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Hong Kong

Some questions:

1. What is the link between the lack of a minimum wage and racism?
2. Why are Chinese discriminations against Chinese considered appropriate for an article on racism? Where is the racial context?
3. If “recent” migrants of the same race are discriminated against, what specific date should be used to restrict such discrimination, and why?
4. Why is the Equal Opportunities Commission – which has no jurisdiction over racial discrimination – cited in this article?
5. What role does language of instruction play in racism, if any?

DOR (HK) (talk) 05:14, 13 February 2008

Not a clue, I just moved the article from racism by country. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Re 2: Punti / Guangdongren people are of different ethnic background to most mainland chinese migrants who are han / hakka, hence it discrimination on these grounds would definately come under racism, or at the very least, socio-ethnic discrimination. 121.79.1.46 (talk) 05:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. Any idea where that definition comes from? The reason I ask is that it bears no resemblance to the United Nations definition whatsoever.DOR (HK) (talk) 06:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Your question can be be answered by actually looking a the UN definition of Racism: "1. In this Convention, the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life." (see http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/cerd.htm) That's from the UN. It pretty much explains the point made up on the page - they (the majority of HK residents have a different ethnic origin to most mainland chinese migrants, and given the UN definition, discrimination based on this (or national origin, remember the 'one nation, two systems approach) would be defined as racism. 121.79.19.4 (talk) 05:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Useful information=

www.asianracism.blogspot.com

Lot's of articles on the topic, might be useful for source material 210.23.146.66 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

India

The section on India focusses almost entirely in dalits and caste issues. More appropriate would be a section on racism itself, for instance the preference for fair skin (note the huyge popularity of face bleaching porducts - even Shah Rukh Khan advertised one!), abuse aginst dark skinned Indians or those from the north east (who generally resemble Burmese people) and aginst black people travelling there (see also the recent cricket controversies). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.122.189 (talk) 16:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Singapore

Any thoughts on creating a section on racism in Singapore? I thought that sections on discrimination against malays, indians, imported domestic labour, housing policy, immigration policy etc might all be worthy sub-sections of the section on Singapore. 124.254.121.189 (talk) 23:33, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Hong Kong

I don't like the phrase "mainland Chinese immigrants." Hong Kong is a city in China, and no one can be an immigrant in the country where they were born or raised. I've changed the word "immigrants" to "migrants." If anyone has any objections, please state them here. (Blootix (talk) 02:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC))