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GA Review

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Hello. I will be doing the GA review for this article. Here are some initial suggestions:

Per WP:LEAD, an article of this size should have a lead with three or four full paragraphs summarizing all the main points of the article.

--Done. ReverendLogos (talk) 00:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the lead also needs to specify the years that this article covers, 1946-1964.

--Done. ReverendLogos (talk) 09:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Miracle on 34th Street.jpg needs a specific fair use rational for this article. So does File:AR Little Rock Nine.jpg.

--Done. ReverendLogos (talk) 09:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There should be at least one citation in every paragraph.

--Done. ReverendLogos (talk) 00:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are several sections without a single reference, including National Christmas Tree, Santa's Workshop, and others.

--Done. ReverendLogos (talk) 00:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Several of the references need to be formatted with Template:cite web.

--Done. ReverendLogos (talk) 00:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's it for now. The article will remain on hold for seven days for these initial changes. Depending on the progress after seven days, I'll decide on whether to keep the review open. If I do, I'll then add more specific suggestions to the list. Nikki♥311 22:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Review Part 2

I have some questions about a couple of the sources used:
- What makes TVParty reliable?

Done. Deleted. ReverendLogos (talk) 17:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Refs 35 and 40 have formatting mistakes.

Done. ReverendLogos (talk) 17:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- About.com is generally considered unreliable. What makes Robert Fontenot an expert?

-Done. ReverendLogos (talk) 16:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds like qualified to me. :) Nikki♥311 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Avoid WP:PEACOCK terms such as "prestigious", "significant", etc.

-Done.ReverendLogos (talk) 16:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are some dash issues. WP:DASH should help sort out when to use a dash vs endash vs emdash.

-Done.ReverendLogos (talk) 05:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In Toys, "Thirty of the one hundred toys on the list were created and manufactured during America's post-War years." needs a source.

-Done. Don't have a source for this. I just counted them on the list. I'll delete line.ReverendLogos (talk) 16:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other films needs sources.

-Done Deleted. Cannot find sources except IMDb and I believe we cannot use it because its user created. ReverendLogos (talk) 15:39, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dates don't have to be linked anymore. Actually, reviewers at FAC make editors removed the links from articles because they are "common terms".

-Done.ReverendLogos (talk) 05:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the point of the header Miscellanea and the subheader Christmas clubs. Wouldn't make sense to remove Miscellanea and make Christmas clubs the level 2 header?

Done.ReverendLogos (talk) 16:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The second paragraph in Christmas clubs needs some sources.

-Done. Deleted. Has no source. ReverendLogos (talk) 16:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry. Just this sentence: "Drawbacks such as restrictions on allowing early withdrawals could snare careless depositors." You are right about the rest being plot and not needed a source. Nikki♥311 01:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The non-free images of book covers and albums need to be removed. They seem to be violations of Wikipedia:Fair use#Unacceptable use, specifically #5.

Done. ReverendLogos (talk) 16:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nikki♥311 03:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 : '''Done. ''' [[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 17:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 **About.com is generally considered unreliable. What makes Robert Fontenot an expert?
+: '''-Done.''' [[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 16:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
-: '''I can remove him and my material for which he is a source.''' Here's his bio. Robert Fontenot, Jr. is an entertainment critic and journalist who has been published nationally for over a quarter century, and has written about oldies music for most of that time. Robert's writing career began in earnest in 1987 at Rock and Rap Confidential, headed by former Rolling Stone Chief Editor Dave Marsh. He's spent the last ten years writing for the country's premiere roots music magazine, Offbeat, which covers reissues from the golden age of rock and roll, along with new releases influenced by R&B and classic rock and roll. In addition, he's written for online and print publications such as Blues Revue, AOL CityGuide, and NZone. Recently he was honored to compose the liner notes for Irma Thomas' Grammy-winning After The Rain album. He is also an original board member of the Southern Music Hall of Fame. His original About.com Beatles site was a fixture on the internet from 1997-2001. This oldies site has been featured on several oldies radio stations across the country, as well as Whitney Matheson's Pop Candy blog in USA Today. Robert holds a bachelor's degree in journalism from the University of New Orleans.From Robert Fontenot: This site will continue to be about your favorite golden hits from the '50s, '60s, and '70s, as well as the legendary artists who made them. I also aim to show the relevance these classics have to the world we live in today -- the ways in which they serve as the soundtrack to our daily lives and the way in which they continue to be a fountain of inspiration for new musicians. Your polite feedback is always welcome -- as I once stated on my About.com Beatles site, our common goal is a better internet experience. Enjoy!
-[[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 16:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 ::That sounds like qualified to me. :) [[User:Nikki311|<font color="Teal">'''Nikki'''</font>]]<font color="Salmon">'''♥'''</font>[[User Talk:Nikki311|<font color="Purple">'''311'''</font>]] 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 *Avoid [[WP:PEACOCK]] terms such as "prestigious", "significant", etc.
-: '''I'll get rid of these. Cleaned up the lead.'''[[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 16:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
+: '''-Done.'''[[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 16:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 *There are some dash issues. [[WP:DASH]] should help sort out when to use a dash vs endash vs emdash.
-: '''Working on these. Have completed first half of article.'''[[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 05:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
+: '''-Done.'''[[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 05:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 *In Toys, "Thirty of the one hundred toys on the list were created and manufactured during America's post-War years." needs a source.
-: '''Don't have a source for this. I just counted them on the list. I'll delete line.'''[[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 16:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
+: '''-Done. Don't have a source for this. I just counted them on the list. I'll delete line.'''[[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 16:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 *Other films needs sources.
-: '''Deleted.''' Cannot find sources except IMDb and I believe we cannot use it because its user created. [[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 15:39, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
+: '''-Done Deleted.''' Cannot find sources except IMDb and I believe we cannot use it because its user created. [[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 15:39, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 *Dates don't have to be linked anymore. Actually, reviewers at FAC make editors removed the links from articles because they are "common terms".
-: '''Cleaning these out.'''[[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 05:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
+: '''-Done.'''[[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 05:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 *I don't see the point of the header Miscellanea and the subheader Christmas clubs. Wouldn't make sense to remove Miscellanea and make Christmas clubs the level 2 header?
 : '''Done.'''[[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 16:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 *The second paragraph in Christmas clubs needs some sources.
-: '''I'm confused. I thought plot summaries don't need sourcing.''' [[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 16:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
+: '''-Done. Deleted. Has no source.''' [[User:ReverendLogos|ReverendLogos]] ([[User talk:ReverendLogos|talk]]) 16:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 ::I'm sorry. Just this sentence: ''"Drawbacks such as restrictions on allowing early withdrawals could snare careless depositors."'' You are right about the rest being plot and not needed a source. [[User:Nikki311|<font color="Teal">'''Nikki'''</font>]]<font color="Salmon">'''♥'''</font>[[User Talk:Nikki311|<font color="Purple">'''311'''</font>]] 01:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 *The non-free images of book covers and albums need to be removed. They seem to be violations of [[Wikipedia:Fair use#Unacceptable use]], specifically #5.