Talk:Hong Kong Disneyland

Quote: "Disney fans are unhappy as this is less Disney and more Hong Kong".

Comment: "More Hong Kong"? What does that mean exactly? Care to elaborate? --Menchi 07:05, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

maybe it means there is more Hong Kong culture then Disney..umm.. stuff? --AlexTheMartian 09:02, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)

The entire "public view" section is POV. -- 17:12, December 7, 2004 (UTC)

Somebody removed the public view section.

==Public Views==

Disney fans have voiced their disappointment at the direction the Chinese Disneyland will be taking. Although the layout will be mediumly based on the traditional Disneyland/Magic Kingdom design, it is focusing less on rides and more on visual beauty as the Chinese seem to prefer this. As 80% of the park's visitors will be based in [[Hong Kong]], this is the best direction to take business-wise, but [[Disney]] fans are unhappy as this is less Disney and more Hong Kong.

I'm the author of the Public Views section. My reason for stating the 'more Hong Kong, less Disney' quote is that basically in order to please the Chinese more than traditional Disney fans - as the majority of visitors will be Chinese - the Imagineers have created a more visually beautiful park which the Chinese seem to prefer to traditional Disney 'magic', i.e. breath-taking rides. The park will focus on more elaborate gardens, and more detailed scenery etc. It's pretty sad that someone deleted the section because they didn't feel it fitted in with their personal views. Well it happens on Wikipedia all the time I suppose.

I personally believe that the lack of rides and the stress on a more aesthetically pleasing park has nothing to do with anything Chinese or non-Chinese. Rather, it's a matter of the small space in Hong Kong. They just can't build anything "gigantic" there, and so there are many facilities that can't be found in Hong Kong.

That's really not much of an excuse. Hong Kong is known for its land reclamation projects; just look at how much land has been created along both sides of Victoria Harbour over the past 40 years. Hell, much of Hong Kong International Airport is an artificial island. Most of the park's visitors will be from Hong Kong and mainland China... I'm under the impression that the park gives them a teaser of what the larger Disney parks in the US have to offer. If the park's successful, Hong Kong gets a new tourist moneymaker and Disney advertises their main parks in the US to the Chinese market.--Madchester 06:37, September 7, 2005 (UTC)

The views on whether the Chinese like flowers over fun are not mine, I took them from Disney's excuse. Sorry if it came across that way. --Speedway 19:22, September 7, 2005 (UTC)

Merge

I believe that Hong Kong Disneyland Resort and Hong Kong Disneyland should not be merged because;

• Hong Kong Disneyland Resort is the collective name of
  • Hong Kong Disneyland
  • Disneyland Hotel
  • Disney's Hollywood Hotel
  • Disneytown

The article Hong Kong Disneyland is about the actual theme park, whereas Hong Kong Disneyland Resort details on all aspects of the resort. As much as it may seem unclear, take a look at Disneyland Resort and Disneyland. The actual park and the resort it is in are two completely different things - this is how the documentation of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts works on Wikipedia. Please compare Hong Kong Disneyland Resort and Hong Kong Disneyland to these examples and you may get a clear picture;

• Disneyland Paris and Disneyland Resort Paris

Disneyland Paris is a theme park in the Disneyland Resort Paris which also includes another theme park and several hotels as well as the Disney Village.

• The Magic Kingdom and Walt Disney World Resort

The Magic Kingdom is the flagship park at WDW, yet it is just one part of a much bigger resort.

• Disneyland and Disneyland Resort

Disneyland has been open for fifty years, whereas the Disneyland Resort was only inaugurated in 2001 - yet Disneyland is still a part of the Disneyland Resort.

I hope you understand. Any further additions of the merge sign to either article will be taken as vandalism. Thanks in advance.--Speedway 17:18, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

Disneyland Railroad

I am wondering if the new railway in Disneyland uses Steam Engine or electric trains.

"History" section?

With regards to a little tussle I had with User:Instantnood over whether an 82-year-old woman's unfortunate death is important for this page, I think it is obvious there seem to be no appiopriate place to report subsequent events since the park's opening...be it a positive or negative event. Surely it would be nice to report on subsequent visitorship figures and any impact on HK's economy and so forth? This should usually be found just after the "construction" section, since it is usually chronological?

Comments?--Huaiwei 20:49, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Information not specific to the park, e.g. impact on the economy of Hong Kong, should be included in the Hong Kong Disneyland Resort article. :-) — Instantnood 06:15, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Link removed

original :

• Chinese Bring culture schock to HK Disney

news article is not there anymore