User talk:MauritsBot/Archive 1

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Blocked because you were breaking thousands of pages by putting interwikis on templates without noincluding them; e.g. {{Clade}}, {{Attribution}}, {{User ang-3}}, {{GSE}}, {{Floor}}, {{Euronext3}}, {{Efron}}, {{Gallery}}, {{User fr-5}}.... Hesperian 04:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Interwiki.py does not function well in templatespace. Please do not run the bot there. –xeno ^talk 04:07, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for blocking and reverting the bot. It will not run it again in templatespace. --Maurits (talk) 17:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. –xeno ^talk 17:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

File: vs. Image:

Please remove this from your list of edits. It is helpful to use image: instead of file:, if that is what they are, because it is more descriptive. Thanks. 199.125.109.77 (talk) 15:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, blindly replacing WP: with Wikipedia: does nothing and should not be done. For example, you changed the link WP:RS to Wikipedia:RS, yet both are redirects. 199.125.109.77 (talk) 15:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

• FYI, The bot's name was mentioned here: Wikipedia:ANI#File: vs. Image:. –xeno ^talk 13:42, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the questions and reactions. From Wikipedia:ANI#File:_vs._Image: I conclude that the image: namespace has been deprecated by file:. As for the second question, I do not see the problem. Indeed, it does nothing, however, it is more clear. Therefore, I will keep running the bot as it is. Note that I do not run it as a stand-alone (which is not without reason disencouraged even in the script itself), but only in combination with interwiki.py. Kind regards, --Maurits (talk) 15:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Users often use "WP:" or "Wikipedia:" for a reason, WP often in conjunction with other short forms. Wikipedia:RS looks silly, for example. Technically, an interwiki bot should not be making editorial decisions in the Wikipedia: namespace. –xeno ^talk 15:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that most users use "WP:" instead of "Wikipedia:" because it is easier to type in. However, if there are any other reasons, I am of course willing to eliminate this rule from the bot. Kind regards, --Maurits (talk) 15:48, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

As explained above. It's en editorial choice, for ease of viewing both in the displayed text, and the editing window. Kindly do not expand "WP:" to "Wikipedia:'. –xeno ^talk 16:43, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I'll exempt 'wp' and 'wikipedia'. Kind regards, --Maurits (talk) 16:50, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

That sounds reasonable. You might consider WT as well, but it isn't widely used so I don't think the bot would run into it that much. –xeno ^talk 21:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree, that won't happen often. In hindsight, I am a little bit surprised that the bot runs automatically into other namespaces than main anyway. I'll find a way to fix this, because it shouldn't. Regards, --Maurits (talk) 21:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

It seemed to stray back into templatespace as well, but only one edit and not an erroneous one. –xeno ^talk 21:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I noticed it. Probably all interwikibots are affected by this bug, although mine seemed to excell because I ran it singularly in that namespace for a while. The problem might be bigger than our short analysis until now showed. The best thing to do is re-programming interwiki.py so that it handles other namespaces correctly (but that sort of technical skill is not my cup of tea...). --Maurits (talk) 22:24, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the problem with templates is the bot doesn't always find the /doc subpage. Fixing that is definitely beyond my level of expertise^{if one could even call it that} with Python as well. best regards, –xeno ^talk 22:25, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Please also take out changing Image: to File:. Image is not "deprecated", the Image namespace was moved to File namespace with a mapping of Image, similar to the WP mapping above. It is and likely will forever be editor preference to use either File: or Image:. As the Wikipedia:Images page states, both are equivalent and both can be used. It is not the part of a bot to enforce style issues onto editors against their wishes. 199.125.109.77 (talk) 23:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

The "File:" prefix may be used interchangeably with "Image:":