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-Under "Ongoing gameplay" the link "See also: World of Warcraft Professions" just redirects back to main page. Should this link be deleted or fixed?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.0.192.78|72.0.192.78]] ([[User talk:72.0.192.78|talk]]) 22:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-: [[World of Warcraft Professions]] was [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World of Warcraft Professions|nominated for deletion]] a couple of weeks ago, and unanimously determined to be [[WP:NOTGUIDE|game guide]] material not suited for Wikipedia. Instead of deleting the article completely they redirected it back here to the main page. Thanks for pointing out that there's still a link to that article, it obviously isn't any use anymore. I've fixed it. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 23:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
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-==Worlds.com Patent Lawsuit==
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-While Blizzard hasn't been included in Worlds.com's lawsuit against NCsoft, WoW faces severe problems should Worlds win the suit. I was wondering if this is worth including in this article, and if so where should it be placed. For those unaware of the lawsuit I am refering to, see the [[NCsoft]] page for a summary. [[User:Frohike14|Frohike14]] ([[User talk:Frohike14|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
-: I'm quite aware of the lawsuit and I think it's crazy. But in any case it's not relevant to this article. Any "severe problems" it might face would be pure speculation and constitutes [[WP:OR|original research]] which isn't allowed on Wikipedia, nor is [[WP:CRYSTAL|predicting the future]]. Even if you could find reliable sources specifically mentioning the potential impact of the lawsuit on WoW, it still wouldn't belong in this article because pointing out this info for WoW when it applies equally to nearly all MMORPGs is redundant. You'd have to add the information to every single MMORPG article in the encyclopedia. It's much better to keep all of that information in one place. I would say that it would certainly belong in the [[MMORPG]] article itself, however. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 15:50, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
-==Input methods: 3.1 and joysticks==
-Patch 3.1 is adding config files for Joystick and high button-count controllers. Should this be added to the input methods section? [[User:Arathanar|Arathanar]] ([[User talk:Arathanar|talk]]) 23:15, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
-:After patch 3.1 goes live yes, otherwise it's too early. You never know, Blizzard might remove that from the patch at the last minute because of some unforeseen technical problem. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 01:45, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
-== Incorrect description ==
-WoW Classic intro: "4 years has passed when the mortal races banded together against the might of the Burning Legion... Now the drums of war thunder once again"
-Note "united against the might of the BL", that's the conclusion of WC3:RoC. So logically, WoW has taken 4 years AFTER RoC, and ''2 years after tFT'' (not 4).  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bulhis899|Bulhis899]] ([[User talk:Bulhis899|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bulhis899|contribs]]) 20:04, 8 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-== An external link is wrong. ==
-'The official US World of Warcraft website' link takes you to http://www.wow-essentials.com/
-I believe it is supposed to point to http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/
-[[User:Joezach|Joezach]] ([[User talk:Joezach|talk]]) 00:57, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
-You can ignore this now.
-[[User:Joezach|Joezach]] ([[User talk:Joezach|talk]]) 01:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
-: That's what we call [[WP:VAN|vandalism]] around these parts. Despite the semi-protection people still do it from time to time. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 04:04, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
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-[[User:Mayple|Mayple]] ([[User talk:Mayple|talk]]) 05:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
-== WoW tabletop RPG not mentioned ==
-There is no mention of the World of Warcraft tabletop role-playing game anywhere in this article. This strikes me as a rather large omission. -- [[User:Manatrance|Manatrance]] ([[User talk:Manatrance|talk]]) 19:42, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
-: It doesn't strike me as "rather large", since the RPG isn't very popular and certainly hasn't shown itself to be particularly notable. But it warrants a small mention. Why don't you fix it? -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 18:00, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
-== Criticism section ==
-Thumperward tagged the Criticisms section, and I agree, actual "Criticism" sections don't have any place in Wikipedia articles. The thing is, it doesn't seem like that section is really about "criticisms", and the items in it shouldn't be lumped together anyway just because they're negative (that's the reason why we don't want criticism sections).The whole "addiction" section should be deleted because it's not even about WoW (China instituted the 3 hour rule for ''all'' online games in China, and WoW isn't even the biggest online game in that country, not even close).  "Usage Problems" could be moved to "Development", since it deals mostly about connection problems not long after launch. "Sale of virtual goods in the real world" could be moved to "Community" (which is right now a stub of a section). "Corrupted Blood plague incident" could be moved to "Gameplay". I'm really not sure what to do about "Security concerns". -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 17:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
-: I'm looking to work further on this article in the future - I'll see what I can come up with. [[user:thumperward|Chris Cunningham (not at work)]] - [[user talk:thumperward|talk]] 10:41, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
-:: I have a particular objection with the Corrupted Blood section, it doesn't strike me as criticism at all. It effected only a small number of players and only a small number of those were actually disgruntled. If nothing else this needs removing from the criticism section. James. [[Special:Contributions/13.20.137.12|13.20.137.12]] ([[User talk:13.20.137.12|talk]]) 13:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
-::: Exactly, while I'm sure some people weren't happy with what happened with their characters (it practically made low-level characters unplayable) the section contains more information about how it took place and how it resembled real-life disease progression. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 15:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
-::::I suggest renaming the 'Game "addiction"' to something like "Addictive potential" (without any quotation marks, of course) and actually focussing on the topic. The alternative would be deletion of that section, as Atama mentioned above; as it is, the title has nothing to do with the content. [[Special:Contributions/84.59.174.138|84.59.174.138]] ([[User talk:84.59.174.138|talk]]) 22:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
-== In Other Media problem ==
-Jean Claude van Dam did not do a commercial.  The citation link is pretty clear that the French commercial is done by alexandre astier.
-:Hmm it seems like the page on wow-europe.com has since been updated, but if you check [http://web.archive.org/web/20080205054139/http://www.wow-europe.com/en/downloads/commercials.html] you'll see the Wayback Machine's archive from 2008 with the Jean-Claude van Damme commercial. The commercial itself is on YouTube at [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNg5ysYd0zc]. --[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] ([[User talk:Stormie|talk]]) 06:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
-== Halifax Bank ==
-While the new development is interesting, it doesn't seem to have caused interest in the media.  It isn't immediately searchable on their website.  I don't think it should stay in very long at all without a [[wp:reliable source]].
-"However, in the Autumn of 2008 this was no longer the case and Halifax accepted that the majority of transactions were legitimate and removed the default ban."
-This seems more useful in an article about the bank.[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 18:13, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
-:I agree, I almost removed it right away but decided to give the person who posted it a chance to provide a reliable source. I doubt that's going to happen. How do we know that the person they talked to knew what they were talking about? -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 15:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
-'''In reply to the above, I posted the updated information.  It came from the Fraud Prevention Department when I contacted the Halifax (my own bank) about subscribing to Blizzard Entertainment's World of Warcraft Game.  The reasons I was given by the Customer Representitive was that children were using their parents credit/debit card to purchase game time over the internet and many parents were calling in complaining about transactions they did not recognise.  So as a preventative measure they automatically declined transactions of this nature and contacted the customer who placed it by their registered account details.
-'''  croc97 01:22 20 June 2009 (BST)  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.18.188.252|82.18.188.252]] ([[User talk:82.18.188.252|talk]]) 00:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-: Thank you for looking into this. Unfortunately, [[WP:OR]] is one of the core tenets of Wikipedia. We can't accept original research of any kind. If you can find the policy published on Halifax's web site, for example, that would be acceptable. Otherwise we can't include that information, because Wikipedia requires [[WP:V|verifiability]], not truth. I personally believe you, but that doesn't matter. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 02:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
-== System Requirements ==
-Is this going by the box or by reality? I play using Ubuntu Linux and have better performance than either Mac OS X or Windows  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.222.202.62|24.222.202.62]] ([[User talk:24.222.202.62|talk]]) 23:49, 14 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-:It goes by "reality"... the secondary [[wp:RS]]es available.  The box requirements are what is required in order to play the game with the support of Blizz.
-:If one doesn't care about support, one can run it on a [[abacus]] if one finds it workable... the graphics seem very limited and having effects on the online world might prove difficult. :) [[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 00:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
-It is worth noting that although you may have enough hard disk space to load a copy of WoW its continuous updates mean you will require more and more space. You cannot play if you cannot fit the new updates on your hard disk.
-:I can't really see that. I have always been a bit dubious of the need for the SR information at all.  But I don't find many others who share that doubt. ;)[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 13:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
-::Any game with [[DLC]] requires ever-increasing disk space. I should think that the reader can infer from the description of various patches adding content that maybe their old hard drive from 1992 doesn't have enough girth to handle the game.  --<font color="#330033">[[User:Kingoomieiii|King ♣]] <font color="#ff6600"><small><small>[[User talk:Kingoomieiii|Talk]]</small></small></font></font> 14:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
-== Population ==
-Maybe is because where i am is 2:00 AM and i`m sleepy but do you think is worth mentioning the fact that if WoW were a country (counting only the official servers) would be the 75th most populated in the world. [[User:Zidane tribal|Zidane tribal]] ([[User talk:Zidane tribal|talk]]) 09:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
-:Unfortunately, unless you have a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] backing up that claim, such a thing would be considered [[WP:OR|original research]] or at least [[WP:SYNTH|synthesis]]. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 21:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
-::Yup. Census source + Blizzard WoW Population press release = [[WP:SYNTH]]. Find a source talking specifically about your claim, and it's fair game.  --<font color="#330033">[[User:Kingoomieiii|King ♣]] <font color="#ff6600"><small><small>[[User talk:Kingoomieiii|Talk]]</small></small></font></font> 14:47, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
-:::Even with a source, the argument is a bit specious.  At any given moment, the "population" is much much smaller.  The "population" of WoW is more like the population of Time Square... it is 0, but sometimes there are a *LOT* of people there, and it is rarely completely empty.[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 14:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Faction changing ==
-Accoriding to the WoW [http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18031079410&sid=1&pageNo=1 offical site], it seems that players will be able to change their factions (not yet implemented). Do you think we should include this in the article? [[Special:Contributions/143.43.8.24|143.43.8.24]] ([[User talk:143.43.8.24|talk]])  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 00:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-:Don't know any particular reason not to.  That is a Blizz poster on the forums.  But this is so fuzzy and far away I can't even imagine what to say.  Maybe something like "On June 29, 2009, Blizzard announced that it would implement..." blah blah in the post-launch development area.  [[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 01:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Game addiction section ==
-*This is a partial restore of the archive for this section, as this small bit is pretty new discussion.[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 14:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
-::::*This section was dropped today (which I support).  I suspect it will be readded... addiction is so very popular.[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 21:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
-:::::If it gets re-added without references that are specifically about '''World of Warcraft''' addiction, I'll remove it. Inserting information about addiction in this article falsely implies that addiction is a bigger problem in WoW than in other online games. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 16:32, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
-::::::Yeah, even things that refer to WoW are often like the FCC thing...WoW is biggest so they mention WoW.  This doesn't make it relevant to WoW... it just means that people who don't know any other MMOG are likely to know WoW.  It may be that we wind up with something like a "Video game abuse" section mentioning that video games can be misused, abused or overused and pointing to the overuse/abuse article.[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 18:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
-:::::::For example, I was editing an article about a [[MMOG]] and mentioned that to a coworker, who asked, what's a mog? I answered "blah blah blah (definition)..." response:  blank stare.  Then I answered: "Games kinda like WoW." and the coworker understood immediately. This is a person who plays no computer games whatsoever.  WoW is Well Known, now.  Every notable mention is not going to be notable in the WoW article.[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 21:43, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-=== See Also section inappropriate ===
-It seems to me that the current "See Also" section violates [[WP:NPOV|NPOV]] implicitly and is irrelevant to the page in general. At the time of writing, the "See Also" section is composed entirely of:
-* Computer addiction
-* Internet addiction disorder
-* Video game addiction
-To my knowledge, none of these are referenced in the article. If such a link were to be extant, however, it would seem that only one of the three would be necessary.
-[[User:Ilikerps|Ilikerps]] ([[User talk:Ilikerps|talk]]) 03:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
-:I suspect I know why it's like that. There was a study reported in the media last year which drew a link between WoW and the addictions/disorders mentioned. However the study isn't quoted or ref'd in the article is it? So those items don't really seem to belong in the See Also, which would leave it empty. Seems like an easy call to me...cut it. [[User:Doc Tropics|Doc ]] <font color ="green">[[User talk:Doc Tropics|Tropics]]</font > 03:37, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
-::It is there because there was an entire section with "Main" and "See also" under it, about addiction.  However, it was not well done, and died.  WoW is mentioned heavily in the press, and in the articles.[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 04:14, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
-::: That said... I don't oppose chopping them... just wanted to point to the root here.[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 04:18, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Yanked "usage problems" ==
-<blockquote><small><nowiki>===Usage problems===
-In September 2005, Blizzard gave all European players two free days of play as compensation for repeated network failures. During the early days of ''World of Warcraft'''s U.S. release Blizzard also gave out free days to compensate players for days lost due to problems on their end. The issues were suspected to be Blizzard's [[upstream (computer science)|upstream]] [[Internet service provider]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=11371 |publisher=[[GamesIndustry.biz]] |title=Blizzard to compensate players for ''World of Warcraft'' problems |author=Ellie Gibson |date=2005-08-09 |accessdate=2006-10-21}}</ref>  Weaknesses of the [[client-server]] model used by ''World of Warcraft'' have also been [[exploit (computer security)|exploited]] in order to [[Crash (computing)|crash]] the [[Computer cluster|cluster]] of servers that make up a realm.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/27/wow_exploit_crashes_servers/ |publisher=The Register |title=World of Warcraft exploit PKs servers |author=Austin Modine |date=2007-08-27 }}</ref> Exploits also include characters being able to instantly change location or [[teleport]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/21/hacking_mmorpgs/ |publisher=The Register |title=World of Warcraft exploit PKs servers |author=Dan Goodin |date=2007-06-21}}</ref><ref>{{cite book| last = Hoglund | first = Greg | authorlink =Greg Hoglund | coauthors = Gary McGraw | title = Exploiting Online Games: Cheating Massively Distributed Systems | publisher = Addison-Wesley Professional | date = 2007-07-19 | page = 384 | url = http://www.exploitingonlinegames.com/ | isbn = 0132271915}}</ref>
-At various times, ''World of Warcraft'' players have experienced problems with connecting to and [[Logging (computer security)|logging in]] to the game. Cases include long delays waiting for usernames and passwords to be [[Authentication|authenticated]] or large queues on certain [[Realm (World of Warcraft)|realms]]. Sudden server crashes that would force realms offline also occurred. The situation became worse when trying to coordinate activities across a number of players or [[Clan (computer gaming)|guilds]] on the same realm. On May 3, 2006 [[Shane Dabiri]], ''World of Warcraft'' Lead Producer, stated that new realms would be introduced to relieve the burden on existing ones. Existing realms would be [[upgrade]]d. The paid migration service was also unveiled at this time.<ref>{{cite news |url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4974456.stm |title= Problems plague World of Warcraft |accessdate= 2008-02-25 |author=Mark Ward |date= 2006-05-05 |publisher= BBC }}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.wow-europe.com/en/misc/battleplan-2006.html |publisher=[[Blizzard Entertainment]] |title=Shane Dabiri's Battleplan: May 2006 |author=Shane Dabiri |accessdate=2008-03-04}}</ref></nowiki></small></blockquote>
-Placing this on the talk page. I don't feel the section is really a WoW specific issue, as with the addiction. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 22:05, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
-:*I don't agree with argument, though I do support the removal.<Br>Maybe a sentence would be worth including in the post-launch development area, mentioning the "[[growing pains]]" and how Blizz handled them... but probably not, IMO.[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 04:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-:::I also question the argument that it's not a WoW-specific issue, as the section speaks specifically of problems that occured in WoW, cites sources that discuss issues in WoW, and even quotes a Blizzard producer discussing problems. The addiction section, by contrast, spoke about online game addiction in general and linked to sources that weren't talking about WoW exclusively (on the contrary, when it talked about Chinese reaction to online game addiction it was shown that WoW has only a small presence in that country). I endorse including ''some'' of the info in this section in the post-launch development area, it is good to show that there have been problems with the game without giving undue weight to it. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 16:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-::::Every [online] game has issues with servers, and I'm certain the other MMOs can ascribe to these problems as WoW can (perhaps not, by popularity...), and ''every'' game has its exploits. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 23:48, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-:::::Not every online game has issues with servers filling up as quickly as WoW does. WoW has certainly been a victim of its own success in that area, more so than most other games. Giving free gameplay days to users isn't common, and I speak as someone who has played dozens of MMOPRGs. I'm not saying to keep all of the info as it was, but some of it should be kept and again trying to equate the section to the addiction section is flawed, because once again these '''are''' issues that actually occurred in the game, not some generic complaint about all online games. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 00:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
-:::::: That needs to be referenced by reliable independent sources which say "WoW has more problems than comparable MMORPGs" before it should go back in. As it was, the sources didn't support that assertion. [[user:thumperward|Chris Cunningham (not at work)]] - [[user talk:thumperward|talk]] 10:20, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
-:::::::No. No it doesn't. If you want to actually say, "WoW has more problems than other MMORPGs", then yes it needs to be sourced. But to include problems it has had, you only need sources that show that WoW had those issues, and we do have such sources. It was my ''opinion'' that WoW has had problems with server populations going out of control, and this opinion is based on two things; my own experiences as a WoW player compared to my experiences in other leading MMORPGs I've played, and the fact that WoW has a higher population than other MMORPGs. I think that my opinion is a reasonable one. Does anyone have sources that specifically say "WoW has had no more problems than comparable MMORPGs"? I don't think so. So we don't have sources either way, what we have is judgement as editors, and the question should simply be, "what improves the article"? Does removing documented issues with the game, backed by reliable sources, even commented on by Blizzard, does removing that make the article ''better'', or ''worse''? I think trimming it makes it better, because it looks to me that it goes into too much detail into something that's not that big of a deal. But I think that removing all of that information completely, not leaving any of it in, I think that makes it worse because it helps to show that the game does have its problems now and again. Or do you want to imply that the game is flawless? -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 21:47, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
-:::::::: Yes, I "want to imply that the game is faultless". That's a mature characterisation of my comments.
-:::::::: Feel free to try a condensed rewording if you want; I just took issue with the way that you framed this in your last comment, which was that the WoW article needs a section on this because it is uniquely or specially affected by technical faults. [[user:thumperward|Chris Cunningham (not at work)]] - [[user talk:thumperward|talk]] 10:38, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
-:::::::::Good, then I guess that we have a compromise. Let me see what I can come up with. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 05:14, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
-==WoW Movie==
-Set to be released in 2011 i think, i remember reading it on here but obviousely its been removed. I really feel that it should have some kind of mention here.--[[Special:Contributions/86.26.110.119|86.26.110.119]] ([[User talk:86.26.110.119|talk]]) 23:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
-:It's been removed because there's no such thing. There is no "WoW Movie". There is a proposed movie that will take place in the Warcraft universe, but it will reportedly occur before the events of the World of Warcraft game, and will therefore not be about the WoW game. It is instead mentioned appropriately at the [[Warcraft (series)]] article. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|<sup><span style="color:#000">chat</span></sup>]]''' 00:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-Currently included under the heading 'Film' this paragraph incorrectly states that the film will be an adaptation of the World of Warcraft franchise." This is widely reported as being not the case. Rather, the film will be an adaptation of the Warcraft universe and take place 1 year before the events of the World of Warcraft game.  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jarramcgrath|Jarramcgrath]] ([[User talk:Jarramcgrath|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jarramcgrath|contribs]]) 11:40, 22 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-: can "See also: Warcraft (series)#Film adaptation" be added to the part about the "different media" section?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/90.178.180.22|90.178.180.22]] ([[User talk:90.178.180.22|talk]]) 18:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-::I can't quite see why it would be good for this article?  How will it provide more information about the WoW game? The relationship goes the other way, and WoW is already linked there.  The article itself is already well-attached to this one.[[User:Sinneed|- sinneed]] ([[User talk:Sinneed|talk]]) 20:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)