User talk:Kbrose

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		Just to say thank you for your contributions to computer network related articles and for actually taking the time to respond to talk pages requests to improve articles.  Nuβiατεch Talk 06:43, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Google Voice and VoIP

Hi. I removed your edits from Google Voice where you indicate that the mobile phone applications use VoIP. There is no citation for this claim. If you add it back, you will need to cite a verifiable source that can support your claim that it uses VoIP. You obviously got this information from somewhere so you should be able to provide a citation. --Two Bananas (talk) 18:39, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

For experts this is an obvious statement, not so for laymen or the general public. As such it is completely permissible without citation. Similarly, it is obvious that the service is a telecommunication service, and we don't require a citation for that either. Through what ether to you propose that phone calls are transmitted by these applications? Kbrose (talk) 22:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I fail to see how claiming that an application, which does not utilize VoIP, is using it is anything short of falsehood. There is no evidence that the application is transmitting the call as opposed to merely initiating the session. Google stated in their statement to the FCC regarding the Google Voice iPhone application that phone calls placed using the Google Voice application uses "the carrier voice network" (see page 2 of the document). If you possess evidence to contradict Google's statement then I strongly urge you to reveal it. --Two Bananas (talk) 22:57, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

OSI model

I've seen your removal of the new examples of stacks in the OSI model page. No previous talk nor discussion, nor improvement, just removal. Of course, I will not start a war and add them again (I've opened a point in the discussion). But I disagree with your action.