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:They should be presented together. They are two pieces of one being that together make up the Primea Espada. The correct way to name the Prima Espada would be Coyote Starrk/Lylynette Gingerback. They are one Espada together. [[Special:Contributions/174.46.28.58|174.46.28.58]] ([[User talk:174.46.28.58|talk]]) 21:16, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
:They should be presented together. They are two pieces of one being that together make up the Primea Espada. The correct way to name the Prima Espada would be Coyote Starrk/Lylynette Gingerback. They are one Espada together. [[Special:Contributions/174.46.28.58|174.46.28.58]] ([[User talk:174.46.28.58|talk]]) 21:16, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

They should not be presented together as the Espada primera for a very simple reason: only Starrk has #1 tattooed on him.


== Tia Harribel's death not confirmed ==
== Tia Harribel's death not confirmed ==

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Barragan a vasto lorde?

The reason I'm asking is because while describing the vasto lordes Hitsugaya says they're roughly human-sized and far more powerful than an adjuchas. Barragan (and Ichigo's new Hollow form for that matter) both fit that description. Additionally, both their masks (Barragan's "skull" and Hollow Ichigo's mask) cover their entire heads. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 20:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barragan was King of Hueco Mondo and a powerful Hollow, but not a Vasto Lorde. I don't think a Vasto Lorde would be defeated so easily in battle. Evilgidgit (talk) 16:37, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Best to leave it as-is for now. Speculation and conjecture when we're trying to be factual are dangerous. Until Kubo comes out with more explicit information as to Barragan (and, indeed, all the Espada/Arrancar) regarding their status, we should just wait and see. Adam Restling (talk) 04:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm actually thinking Barragan was initially an arrancar, and his skull is not his mask, but his actual face. Haachi (The kido-using visord - whatever his name is) said Barragan's decaying ability would've destroyed him were it not for him having a secondary power protecting his bones from it. So the reason he is a skeleton is because his decaying power destroyed his flesh. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 14:46, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Separating pages once again

Of the reception info linked a few posts above, a lot seems geared towards Grimmjow. Thoughts on reviving the old Grimmjow page and adding this reception stuff to it? 207.80.142.5 (talk) 15:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lilynette Gingerback Primera Espada?

Should we included Lilynette as a Separate from Starrk or leave them together, because Starrk says "We are the Primera Espada, Coyote Starrk and Lilynette Gingerback, and this is our power." on page 15 of chapter 373. Which might mean Lilynette is also an Espada.

They should be presented together. They are two pieces of one being that together make up the Primea Espada. The correct way to name the Prima Espada would be Coyote Starrk/Lylynette Gingerback. They are one Espada together. 174.46.28.58 (talk) 21:16, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They should not be presented together as the Espada primera for a very simple reason: only Starrk has #1 tattooed on him.

Tia Harribel's death not confirmed

Yes, she was sliced by Aizan, but so was Ichigo when Aizan betrayed Soul Society, and Koga (the Bount) was sliced by Hitsugaya, AND Ichinose by Zaraki, and they were all presumed dead but survived. Heck, Ichigo survived getting 3/4 of his chest removed by Ulquiorra and Grimmjow's still alive ater being beaten up by Ichigo and Nnoitra, so Tia might not be dead. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 14:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Starrk

Some notes on Starrk from corrections made to the entry.

- Starrk and Lylynette are one being. Lylynette is not a fracción.

- Starrk was not a Menos at the time of meeting Aizen.

- Starrk and Lylynette were both Arrancars before meeting Aizen. This is visually clear in chapter 475.

- Starrk and Lylynette do not remember what the hollow they split from was called or which of them (if either) it resembled.

I dont think any of these can seriously be disputed based on 473-475.

174.46.28.58 (talk) 21:13, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]