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So either someone is having fun with this whole thing because they think it's a big media spoof, or they're having fun with wikipedia. Thus my question. Has anyone seen this manual in the flesh? As it were? [[User:Iconoclastus|Iconoclastus]] ([[User talk:Iconoclastus|talk]]) 06:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
So either someone is having fun with this whole thing because they think it's a big media spoof, or they're having fun with wikipedia. Thus my question. Has anyone seen this manual in the flesh? As it were? [[User:Iconoclastus|Iconoclastus]] ([[User talk:Iconoclastus|talk]]) 06:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

== Noriega clarification ==


The information on the use of loud music in the capture of Manuel Noriega is not entirely accurate. In Tom Clancy's Non Fiction book Shaw Warriors; General Carl Stiner's ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Stiner ) recollection of the Capture of Noriega was based on Psyops possession of several Loud speak equipped vehicles for public relations announcements to the civilian population. When they cornered Noriega at the Papal consulate, the media coverage of the standoff was threatening operational security; so after a staff consultation General Stiner ordered Psyops to Blast Heavy Metal at the Papal consulate as a distraction and counter intelligence measure against media coverage of tactical military operations around the consulate.

But in that case; the music was done as a distraction to the media; there was no expectation that the music tactic would effect Noriega. Actually the Pysops against Noriega where based on his fascination with the local occult (i.e witch craft); and a special forces NCO with a Masters in Occult studies consulted on the psychological tactics used to capture Noriega peacefully from Papal protection. The used his occult beliefs in conjunction with his Catholic guilt under Papal sanctuary to motivate his surrender.

Just a clarification on a common misconception of the details of famous Psyops.

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Confusing still?

I am not quite clear why the confusion tag was added, since there was no message on the Talk page. I've had a go at clarifying the things which struck me on first sight. Can the tag go now? --Telsa 18:56, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No sources?

This article doesn't seem to cite it's sources. --68.41.80.161 (talk) 03:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think I see why no sources

This article seems to be a spoof of a spoof of a spoof. Is there an actual hard copy of the First Earth Battalion manual in existence? I was skeptical when I saw the movie, "The Men Who Stare at Goats", advertised on IMDb.com, and even more when I saw a bit on the Colbert Report about the movie; even more when I read sections of the book on amazon.com.

But the clincher which convinced me to write the first sentence above is this: according to this article, one ability listed in the manual, among the goals to be achieved, after "fall in love with everyone" and "organize a tree plant with kids", is "stop using mindless cliches."

The one after that is "stay out alone at night." The one I've put in bold-face seems a bit too pointedly self-referential to be true, and seems to be someone thinking they're too clever to get caught at posting nonsense here, and leaving clues to prove it. The others, I think, are made up by the author of the article.

So either someone is having fun with this whole thing because they think it's a big media spoof, or they're having fun with wikipedia. Thus my question. Has anyone seen this manual in the flesh? As it were? Iconoclastus (talk) 06:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Noriega clarification

The information on the use of loud music in the capture of Manuel Noriega is not entirely accurate. In Tom Clancy's Non Fiction book Shaw Warriors; General Carl Stiner's ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Stiner ) recollection of the Capture of Noriega was based on Psyops possession of several Loud speak equipped vehicles for public relations announcements to the civilian population. When they cornered Noriega at the Papal consulate, the media coverage of the standoff was threatening operational security; so after a staff consultation General Stiner ordered Psyops to Blast Heavy Metal at the Papal consulate as a distraction and counter intelligence measure against media coverage of tactical military operations around the consulate.

But in that case; the music was done as a distraction to the media; there was no expectation that the music tactic would effect Noriega. Actually the Pysops against Noriega where based on his fascination with the local occult (i.e witch craft); and a special forces NCO with a Masters in Occult studies consulted on the psychological tactics used to capture Noriega peacefully from Papal protection. The used his occult beliefs in conjunction with his Catholic guilt under Papal sanctuary to motivate his surrender.

Just a clarification on a common misconception of the details of famous Psyops.