User talk:J929

Sathya Sai Baba Article

Hi, I don't know if you are familiar with the history of this article but it was recently locked for 7 days due to edit warring. The article was OK before it was totally destroyed through one user's 150 edits in a ten day period in January while nobody was watching turning it into a total assualt against Sathya Sai Baba. The article is being repaired. It has improved a lot in the last month. We have set up a sandbox Sai Baba Sandbox for testing of major changes. E-mail me if you have any questions.Yours Sbs108 (talk) 21:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Sathya Sai Baba article - editors

Hi J929, I have been following the recent talk page discussions. If you think User:Ombudswiki is pushing an agenda you can report him in Wikipedia Conflict of Interest notice board. I do agree with you that these activists are starting to disrupt the article pushing their secret agendas. If they don't stop then we may have to report them in other higher level forums in wikipedia. Thanks. Radiantenergy (talk) 01:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard

Please add any relevant info!

J929 (talk) 00:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

For now the activists seemed to have stopped the disruption. Let's see in future, if we see more disruption then we can present a stronger evidence and reopen an older case. I would suggest you also to keep a copy of the discussion links once its archived so it could be used for future. Thanks. Radiantenergy (talk) 03:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I have some questions to ask in the WP:COI. I will post them soon. Thanks. Radiantenergy (talk) 11:44, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I replied in my talk page. Thanks. Radiantenergy (talk) 19:06, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

SSB Talk Page

Please avoid bringing your theories and problems about other editors to the talk page of SSB. Instead, post it on your talk page or user page, Ombudswiki's talk page or ProEdits talk page. Thanks, Onopearls ^(t/c) 21:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Ombudswiki, Brian Steel lied about the Daily Pioneer discussion on the Reliable source Notice board and on the discussion page. How is that good faith?

J929 (talk) 22:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

5 October 2009. User J929: I have just stumbled on this extraordinarily bold assertion of yours. Please show your evidence. Where exactly are the alleged "lies" about The Pioneer? I remind you of your previously unjustified repeated accusations against me of vandalism for which you finally apologised. If you can offer no convincing evidence here either, I shall expect a further apology and greater self-control by you in the future. Ombudswiki (talk) 04:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say it was or wasn't, I said to keep a completely unrelated discussion and rant off the SSB talk page. And I think you need to check out what "good faith" is, as it is saying that unless there is strong evidence to the contrary, assume that people who work on the project are trying to help it, not hurt it. So I am not entirely sure how you are associating AGF to his post on the RS noticeboard. Thanks, Onopearls ^(t/c) 22:42, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

His website (and actions) is mentioned in the article for the Daily Pionner, he called the findings "wild suggestion". Yet in his own blog he says he went to Puttaparthi and to the Sathya Sai Baba ashram. How can he on one side say its a "wild suggestion" and other write that he did indeed go to Puttaparthi? That discrepensy is a lie. Does a lie hurt or help the article and relations with other editors?
If he and Proedits have agendas, thats fine, but for editors (like Radiantenergy in the RS notice board) who have to rebuttal their contributions, it is a waste of energy to find their contributions were lies.

J929 (talk) 23:12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

On another note, you had asked if proedits and ombudswiki were linked up outside Wikipedia, i had already written an answer and have cut and pasted here... if its relevant to the discussion...
" Barry Pittard states on his website he received an email from Brian Steel. http://barrypittard.wordpress.com/ "and also since noted that Brian D. Steel has very recently amended two articles to include, as he notes in an email, “references to three more of Kevin R.D. Shepherd’s contributions, the latest from his splendid new website”" and continues to provide a link to the new information... and further more states in http://barrypittard.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/brian-d-steel-updates-references-to-kevin-r-d-shepherd-writings/ "Brian D.Steel, who has written in-depth on matters of Sathya Sai Baba-related bibliography, has just sent a note. I think that these references below can be read as a resource in company with my blog of yesterday: Kevin R.D. Shepherd Exposes Sathya Sai Baba Defender Gerald Moreno

Brian Steel writes:

I have just amended 2 articles to include references to 3 more of Kevin R.D. Shepherd’s contributions, the latest from his splendid new website: http://www.kevinrdshepherd.info -" Barry Pittard states he received 'a note' from Brian Steel.

• Barry Pittard refers to the Sathya Sai Baba former devotee sites "primary writers such as Robert Priddy, Brian Steel and myself (Barry Pittard)." and "uncovered evidence that was beyond the range of internationally networked former devotees" ( http://barrypittard.wordpress.com/2008/12/ )

these 'authors' link to each others websites, send information to each other via emails and notes and quote each others' websites in their wikipedia edits."

discard if no longer applicable...

J929 (talk) 23:20, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Ombudswiki, "As a rule, do not edit others' comments, including signatures." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#Good_practice
i chose not to pursue the issue.
The Daily Pioneer is expanded upon in the Sathya Sai Baba discussion.

J929 (talk) 18:18, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Request for Comment

Can you please add your comments here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Daily_Pioneer_.2F_Sandhya_Jain. Thanks. Radiantenergy (talk) 20:30, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi J929, In the reliable source board we can talk only about the source - "The Daily Pioneer' and that it was already declared reliable in the earlier reliable source notice board. It may not be an appropriate place to write about the activist. That has to be reported in the Conflict of Interest notice board. Thanks. Radiantenergy (talk) 22:06, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you please add your comments again in the reliable source notice board I think it got over written some how because 2 of us were editing the article at the same time.

I think I got confused some body reverted it later. I don't know why? - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard&diff=315608688&oldid=315608347 Thanks. Radiantenergy (talk) 23:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)