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Hi Gabbe, |
Hi Gabbe, |
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Thank you for your input. It should be noted that the list of references cited in said article are not representative of what has become an overwhelming world-wide professional consensus against spanking. Two Pro-spanking Christian 'researchers' are hardly worthy of note |
Thank you for your input. It should be noted that the list of references cited in said article are not representative of what has become an overwhelming world-wide professional consensus against spanking. Two Pro-spanking Christian 'researchers' are hardly worthy of note given the mountian of viable research to the contrary. Evidence of this fact can be found in the following resource materials from my book: 'The Road To Positive Discipline: A Parent's Guide'. |
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http://www.amazon.com/tag/parenting/forum/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx20C498EK5JY4S&cdThread=Tx33LRS5I4EVMVL&displayType=tagsDetail |
http://www.amazon.com/tag/parenting/forum/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx20C498EK5JY4S&cdThread=Tx33LRS5I4EVMVL&displayType=tagsDetail |
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I attempted to list my links individually to no avail. I hope you can make use of them in painting a more comprehensive picture of the status of spanking within the scientific and academic communities. |
I attempted to list my links individually to no avail. I hope you can make use of them in painting a more comprehensive picture of the status of spanking within the scientific and academic communities. |
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I should also add that the reference to 'Sweden's Crime Rates' represents an unsupported claim according to what is reported on the site referenced. |
I should also add that the reference to 'Sweden's Crime Rates' represents an unsupported claim according to what is reported on the site referenced. Supporting evidence should actually support a claim. |
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James C. Talbot |
James C. Talbot |
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Hi! |
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I've reverted [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spanking&diff=341251506&oldid=341247356 this edit]. While I don't disagree with what you say, you need to attribute such potentially contentious statements to a reliable source. You need to name who says that there hasn't been a study published, etc. See [[WP:V]] and [[WP:NOR]]. Cheers! [[User:Gabbe|Gabbe]] ([[User talk:Gabbe|talk]]) 10:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC) |
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:Allow me to again clarify, I agree with what you're saying. However, the way Wikipedia works is that whenever we make an addition to an article, we have to be ready to attribute this to someone other than ourselves. I assume you're new to Wikipedia, and if so I advise you to read [[WP:A]] carefully, it clarifies what's acceptable and what's not. Also, I concur that the study on Swedish crime statistics is not very reliable, but you'll have a hard case trying to motivate a removal of sourced statements in any given article without citing more proper sources that directly and explicitly contradict the statements you want removed. [[User:Gabbe|Gabbe]] ([[User talk:Gabbe|talk]]) 19:11, 1 February 2010 (UTC) |
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I second this. While your statements are well worded and mirror my own in professional settings, we all gotta play by the rules here on Wikipedia, and provide sources particularly in contentious articles. Incidentally, if you find a journal article abstract (such as through [http://scholar.google.com/ Google Scholar] that seems promising as a source but want to know more, leave me a message on my talk and I will see if I can get a full text copy.[[User:Legitimus|Legitimus]] ([[User talk:Legitimus|talk]]) 14:17, 1 February 2010 (UTC) |
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Hi Gabbe,
Thank you for your input. It should be noted that the list of references cited in said article are not representative of what has become an overwhelming world-wide professional consensus against spanking. Two Pro-spanking Christian 'researchers' are hardly worthy of note given the mountian of viable research to the contrary. Evidence of this fact can be found in the following resource materials from my book: 'The Road To Positive Discipline: A Parent's Guide'. http://www.amazon.com/tag/parenting/forum/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx20C498EK5JY4S&cdThread=Tx33LRS5I4EVMVL&displayType=tagsDetail
I attempted to list my links individually to no avail. I hope you can make use of them in painting a more comprehensive picture of the status of spanking within the scientific and academic communities.
I should also add that the reference to 'Sweden's Crime Rates' represents an unsupported claim according to what is reported on the site referenced. Supporting evidence should actually support a claim.
James C. Talbot