Talk:2004 unrest in Kosovo

References Needed

I have placed tags {{Fact}} around several statistics and statements in the article.--_{A B X} ^{T • ៛} 01:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Unnecessary categories

I removed the following categories that do not belong to this article which has to do with year 2004:

• Kosovo War (1998-1999)
• Kosovo Liberation Army (1996-1999)
• Terrorist attacks on places of worship (It was an unrest)
• War crimes in former Yugoslavia (1991-1999)
• Ethnic cleansing (There was no ethnic cleansing except Kostunica saying so; We need a RS for this)

Thank you. kedadial 17:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

This was Terrorist attacks on Serbian places of worship, and Ethnic cleansing was explained earlier. a lot more people told that. And even just Koštunica said so, he was respected president, so it is RS. --Tadija (talk) 16:11, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

The label ethnic cleansing is not justified. Just because Kostunica says so it does not make it so. Also, there are many irresponsible politicians in the Balkans. Should we cite each of their absurd declarations here? I think that a term such as ethnic cleansing should pass a higher acceptance test than simply a statesman's comments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oneofakindornot (talk • contribs) 13:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

This article has mistakes

It is written that 8 Serbs were killed during the riots, but when one counts the number of the serbs reported as killed the number is suddenly 18. Since most of the reporting agrees that 8 Serbs were killed the other figures have to be corrected. Also the church in Prizren which is reported as being burned down is still standing and not destroyed but rather damaged at the entrance. Unë, ti, ai, ajo (talk) 13:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree with TC. The number of deaths is inconsistent: 8 in the top right box and 18 in the article. The 18 in the article are not sourced. And there is a picture of a church in the article that is located in Croatia. What's the deal with that?? --Ylmuanima (talk) 16:14, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I have removed wrongly referenced death numbers. Maybe somehow should be additionally clarified difference between sources: B92 says 19 Serbs, BBC says 28 people. Also, reference to church is corrected. There was redirection from general name - Church of Holy Salvation, to single church in Croatia - St. Saviour, Cetina.Irić Igor -- Ирић Игор -- K♥S 20:44, 17 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iricigor (talk • contribs)

People, like Tadija, have continued to introduce further mistakes. The BBC article was written at a time when there were no clear figures on the number of casualties, but the B92 one is more recent. Also, do you really think that a Serbian news agency (B92) would want to purposely portray the events as less tragic by lowering the number of victims? That would be absurd. That is why we should put the number of victims at 19, as B92, Amnesty and other sources claim, and not 28.

Also, at the beginning of the article the ethnicity of the people killed should be clearly stated (11 Albanians and 9 Serbs).

Finally, I do not see how this article belongs to the "Terrorist attacks on places of worship" category. We should remove that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oneofakindornot (talk • contribs) 13:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Oneofakindornot, your contributions were not good. B92 is talking about 19 Serbs, BBC says 28 people died in total. That's the difference. Also, I do not see how it makes sense to have statement "19 civilians were killed (11 ethnic Albanians and 9 ethnic Serbs)"--Irić Igor -- Ирић Игор -- K♥S 14:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Igor, you are wrong and Oneofakindornot was right. The B92 article reads "Eleven Albanians and eight Serbs were killed in the violence. " -- please check paragraph 4 below the picture in the B92 article. I think you should apologize for your error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.51.104.22 (talk) 22:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

And Oneofakindornot says 11+9, not 11+8. You are also just simply wrong. 11+9 is 20, not 19!--Irić Igor -- Ирић Игор -- K♥S 20:49, 22 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iricigor (talk • contribs)

You are absolutely right, for that arithmetic error. I corrected it so that 19=11+8 now. Thanks.

Also, the references to the section Attacks on Kosovo Serb must be added as well. If there is a certain web site that specifies this, must be added as reference. Radu Gherasim (talk) 20:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Also, I've found related news wich says 4012 Serbs were expelled, 6 towns and 9 villages were ethnically cleansed, and 935 Serb houses and 10 public facilities, such as schools, healthcare centers and post offices, were burnt to the ground or severely damaged. What reference should we add or keep? Radu Gherasim (talk) 20:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Radu, B92 is a Serbian News Agency. Their sympathies lie with the Serbs on this unfortunate event and it is apparent that the sources they used (most likely Serbian due to ease of access to such data) were also skewed towards a less neutral stance. E.g.: It's like citing an IRA newspaper as a source for the total suffering of Northern Irish Catholics at the hands of Protestants - obviously skewed. My point is that there is a conflict of interests therein and that an independent source needs to be cited and should be referred to in the first place. Otherwise this article will end up in statements of flagrant disproportionalism due to both sides using whatever biased stats that they can provide a link to. Moreover, I am sure that there is not a shortage to verifiable and unbiased news sources as the event impacted not only Serbs and Albanians but international peace keeping troops as well not to mention that it saw a great amount of exposure in all the news media. Respectfully, --Ylmuanima (talk) 14:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC)