Talk:Man in Black (Lost)

Creating the article

I realized there was alot of discussion regarding The MIB / Monster from Lost to have it's own article. So I decided to start one up. Here it is, I'll let people more qualified with editing wikipedia to fill in the rest fill in the rest. (Robertomaynard (talk) 23:28, 27 March 2010 (UTC)).

Wow great job guys. The article just needs an image of either Titus Welliver or Terry O'Quinn as the man in black which doesn't infringe any copyright claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertomaynard (talk • contribs) 17:57, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

agreed, an image of both the actors I think is needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.186.21.105 (talk) 02:56, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I Believe that we have already seen the man in black in an other human form.

'Christian Shephard' father of both Jack & Claire came to the island already dead witch is the same way John Locke Came back to the island. He is seen Alive multiple times on the island and appears and disappears like the man in black aka John Locke currently sometimes does. You might also have noticed that he is the one that made Claire stay on the island witch explains why she later calls him 'her friend' He is also telling John Locke to say 'hi' to the his son. DjRavix (talk) 21:36, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

This is not a forum. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Based on the newest episode, I think it is more appropriate to have a pic of the actor instead of the smoke cloud now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.186.21.105 (talk) 04:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Rewriting the "biography" section

The scetion has to be rewritten. Facts should be written in the order appearing in the TV series so readers can see how the story was developed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC) No. Like all Lost characters (or any fictional character) this article should cover the Man In Black's story in an In-Universe style following his character development chronologically. (Robertomaynard (talk) 20:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)).

No that is just stupid. All the other Lost character articles are written in this fashion, and the Man in Black is indeed a main character. The facts need to be told chronologically from the mythologies point of view like all the other character articles. Plus writing it in that fashion would be confusing to readers. -- User:98.95.60.137

We have to rewrite all articles then. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Taking bets now on birth name

I'm in for Esau. They are fighting for parental love and right to gain the "birthright" of protecting the island. Esau pledges to kill Jacob, Jacob kills Esau, etc etc.173.64.201.181 (talk) 10:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

See Magioladitis's post above. --81.155.159.109 (talk) 13:07, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

They said in an interview last week that he is not getting a name. –thedemonhog talk • edits

It's Samuel Via Kristin Dos Santos--Aresef (talk) 14:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

'Samuel' was not ever a reference to MiB. It might be how the scripts referenced one particular form of MiB played by Titus, but it is never used in the show, not even for the Tidus scenes. In the year 2007 they referenced MiB as 'Locke'. Ofus (talk) 04:55, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Indeed the name 'Samuel' was never specified on the show, but we should at least mention the name since that's what is used in the teleplays. It's not like the article is titled 'Samuel'- it is fair to briefly mention it as we have in parentheses. -- Wikipedical (talk) 05:16, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Limited to one form of MiB, sure, it is fair to briefly mention it outside of the lead and main character box, in unbolded text. But putting it in the lead gives it far too much weight. Ofus (talk) 05:27, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

The referenced “E!” article doesn't contain “Samuel” anywhere on the page, even in user comments. Both video clips posted there are not available anymore. So it's absolutely unclear how that reference could be a “reliable source”, if “source” at all. Unless having an official source, the name Samuel should be removed from this article. 217.172.21.161 (talk) 17:58, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

The video clips are available. In the second one, at about 2:45 in, Kristin of E! says "The Man in Black did have a name that was in the scripts... The name was Samuel." While the name is obviously not mentioned in the series due to storytelling purposes, it's still his name. -- Wikipedical (talk) 19:51, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

If you're sure about video availability nowadays (not only a still preview picture and the “E!” logo clip, but the whole clips themselves), then it's obviously a country-restricted content [1]. Can such a source be considered appropriate for encyclopedia? (Not to mention that it is merely an outsider's blog.) 217.172.21.161 (talk) 17:15, 31 May 2010 (UTC)