Talk:Shadow person

Historical references?

Where are references to these objects having been observed for centuries? That was promised at the start of the article but there are no details further down.

Crystal Meth Connection?

Crystal meth users often talk about seeing shadow people after multi-day binges, so I think that sleep deprivation should be listed under "non-paranormal explanations". [1] [2]

This page is not about drug induced hallucinations of drug addicts.ScifiterX 19:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

References?!

This article still needs specific references, rather than simply a list of related links. Seems like all the information in the article exists elsewhere, so why not reference it? Russell 00:49, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Non-paranormal explanation

I removed the following from the article:

• Scientists have proven that under the right conditions erratic electromagnetic field behavior can interfere with the electrical impulses or firing synapses of the human mind, thus influencing people subjected to such environments over time to believe that they are hearing or seeing ghosts, aliens, or perhaps shadow people. Such environments include old buildings with substandard wiring, power plants, and areas with naturally occurring strong magnetic fields.

This seems a lot like crank science to me... Can anyone produce a reference for this? Thanks, Andrew Morritt 02:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Well you obviously didn't even look. Just google "electromagnetic impulses cause hallucinations" and you will get a ton of articles.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=electromagnetic+fields+cause+hallucinations&btnG=Google+Search

This is not crank science. Are you questioning that the brain has electrical impulses? Why would you think that the study of prolonged exposure to electromagnetic impulses on the brain would be crank science? That doesn't even make any sense.

I saw a program on the discovery channel that used science to explain psuedo-paranormal phenomena and a scientist did prove under controlled laboratory conditions that electromagnetic pulses can cause people to hallucinate. If you are too lazy to look it up, then you should also be too lazy to delete. Actual test were conducted proving this. ScifiterX 20:01, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Eyewitness

I've saw one particular Shadow Person a number of times. It was following me. Right before I would engage in a conversation with a person, I'd see a shadow person thing walk very quickly out of the corner of my eye and then right into the person I was about to talk to. I got the impression I was speaking to the shadow person that went into that person and not the person him/herself. This only happened for a few days back in 2000. It was pretty creepy. Friendlyliz 03:14, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

commendable article

The usual 'everything is a fake/hoax/hallucination because I can't explain it' junk is at a minimum here. Very nice.

I've been debating whether or not to add the multiple forms and their extended descriptions on this page as it is lacking. I noticed the page explains stages one and three of the shadows, but not two or the final stage. In any case, I am amazed that I am not insane seeing as how others have seen them.

Some jackass tried to ruin the article, I removed the mocking commantary they placed within the article.

I have seen Shadow people all my life and before I was born

When I was about to be born, my mother had a feeling that i was going to be in danger, when I was finaly born, that day and after she saw shadow poeple or felt shadow poeple in my room.( she never told me this until recently). As I grew up about the age of 6-7 i remember seeing a shadow man dressed like a monk holding a book open and reading it, I would alwasy see him in my doorway every night some times just the profile of the man and the other times he was at the foot of my bed looking at me with red eyes. As i grew older I simply acepted this and experienced a wide range of paranormal activity, now that I am fully grown is still feel it, and see it, but we have grown together so I have no fear of it.

Its odd but It has never hurt me, on the contrary it has kept me from geting killed several times in accidents.

Unnecessary Paragraph in eye witness accounts

The following text needs to stay out: A third theory exists however, that shadow people can succumb to a third form. This form, offen seen with red eyes, also bears three claws instead of hands. There have been numerous reports of attacks from these such forms, often times with victims left with three clawlike marks that have been burned into the flesh. This is often referred to as being called "The Mark of the Shadow." This has also been highly speculated as having deep religious impact.

The majority of the literature about this phenomena (websites and a few books) simply does not substantiate

• 1) "Mark of the Shadow People" Just because someone reading the article calls it that, doesn't mean that its a reknown term associated with the phenomena. In fact, I googled "Mark of the Shadow" and this article was all that came up for the term. I've read several books and websites about shadow people and "the Mark of the Shadow People" and "claws" are never mentioned and need to be left out. Its enough to say that attacks have been reported.

• 2) Highly speculated to have deep religious impact? Yes, some people think these things are demons and that is described under paranormal explanations. It doesn't belong in eye witness accounts. Eye witnees accounts refers to the eye witness reports, not the religious impact of said reports after the fact.

Silly additions damage the credibility of the article. It has already been deleted from Wikipedia once and I would rather it didnt' get deleted again but if people keep adding silly nonsense, guess what will happen? ScifiterX 19:48, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Or how about the simple fact that this entire article has zero credibility due to the simple fact that their is no recorded evidence. Deleting articles that people add based on their own experiances shows such foolish ignorance and it will not be tolerated.