Talk:Fast Five

THIS is the wikipage for the Film.

I placed the hangon tag, I don't believe the person who tagged it understands what is happening. Fast Five (disambig) has links to three topics, with Fast Five being a link to the disambiguation page. Fast Five should only have a LINK to the movie page, just as "Fab Four" doesn't jump you into the Beatles.rhyre (talk) 18:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

rhyre (talk) 17:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Content suggestions

The vast majority of this article has absolutely nothing to do with an upcoming movie. Per WP:NOTNEWS, I don't think Wikipedia should have an article detailing the week by week events involved in filming. Even if this can survive Speedy Deletion, though, it certainly wouldn't survive a PROD, per the criteria regarding future films in WP:NFF. Thus, per WP:SNOW, we should go ahead and speedy delete anyway. Once this film has started principal photography and the production is notable itself, then an article can be created. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place for a week to week acount for the making of a film, although i do think the article should stay, be cut to a minium until the film is released and focus on the key point that the film is being made. Atkinsonhd (talk) 03:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Some seem to be calling for edits to the article to reduce the amount of content, others for deletion. I didn't create the original content of the page, merely cut/pasted it from the overly generic Fast Five page (which others keep trying to replace with the Film Content, despite it being a working title).

My suggestions are

Please review Amors Baller to see if that's a more suitable model for an upcoming film, and comment here.

Please review the page for Fast Five and comment here, suggesting whether or not THAT content should be moved here to create the smaller article. Be aware that anonymous fanboys of the movie series may revert your work for a time.

rhyre (talk) 16:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Rhyre, you're correct that, if the movie deserves an article, it should be here under "Fast Five (film)," and "Fast Five" should be a disambiguation page. However, if the problem is that the disambiguation page is being vandalized, the solution is not to create an article that doesn't meet notability--it's to defend the disambiguation from vandalizing (possibly through some level of protection, depending on who's vandalizing). Qwyrxian (talk) 13:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I will request "semi-protection" for the Fast Five page as it exists now, to prevent anonymous edits. The initial problem that motivated this change was anonymous IP users inserting random movie factoids into a page called Fast Five. Fast Five originally linked to the section of the "Fast and the Furious article" which was where the upcoming movie existed. Principal photograpy has commenced as of July 2010, so the section really does qualify for an article (principal photography is one of the WP:NFF tests). (You can join the debate at the AfD discussion) rhyre (talk) 15:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Is Lucas Black even confirmed for the film? I haven't heard a thing about his involvement in the film, if i'm wrong I apologize. Unless we have concrete proof like a tweet from him or a set photo, I think we should keep him off of the page.

Significant removals

I just removed three long sections from the article. Please know that I'm not trying to influence the deletion discussion; even if the article is kept, I am certain those sections had absolutely nothing to do with the film or the production. The first section I deleted was about some sort of Green viral advertising campaign or contest; the second was about increasing green energy in Puerto Rico; and the third was about the goal of the government to improve the PR film industry (that did not mention Fast Five). If someone else has a reason why those are relevant (and can include that info in the article itself), please feel free to re-add and explain here. I don't know if someone is just randomly moving things around, or if someone's trying to give substance to this article where there is none, or what's happening. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I have completed edits to add a reliable, published reference (Variety), and removed the redundant cast details (they are, and should remain, in the infobox). Please don't re-add them. I will request temporary semi-protection for the article, so that anonymous edits aren't allowed. (Unless someone explains here why that's a bad idea.), If you want to discuss the article's proposed deletion, click HERE to do so. rhyre (talk) 15:34, 21 July 2010 (UTC)