Talk:Perichoresis

Context needed

Some context is needed for the use of this word. Has it been used by theologians since the 1728 reference? If so, please give some more modern references. If not, it should be relegated to its historical use. Also, please provide an English transliteration of the Greek word, so others can attempt a pronunciation of it. --Blainster 21:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

• It's in the 1913 Webster's dictionary, and in the 1989 OED. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-06-05 21:43
  • Sorry, you missed my point. I wasn't asking for a dictionary listing. There are many words in the dictionary that are no longer in modern use. What we need are references indicating the term's use by modern theologians. --Blainster 22:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
    • I don't think Webster keeps old words; only the OED does. Google Books lists various new books using that term. See for example "The HarperCollins Encyclopedia of Catholicism - Page 318" at that link. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-06-05 22:39
  • Thanks for adding the Greek transliteration. Google shows that the Greek term is by far the more commonly used version of the word. Here are two articles discussing them: [1]. [2]. --Blainster 22:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
    • They mean the same thing. I didn't know the Greek word until I found the transliteration; it's several centuries older than this term. I think your first link simply uses the term perichoresis because that's what Damascenus used. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-06-05 22:56
  • Would you agree in light of the more common Greek usage, to move the article title to perichoresis, and adjust appropriately? --Blainster 23:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me but I clicked onto "mutual indwelling", and the first section tries to explain it with the phrase "mutual interpenetration and indwelling"...!! WTF?!? As a layman, I find this explanation of the term ever so slightly on the attrocious side...!85.158.137.195 (talk) 16:06, 17 December 2009 (UTC)Lance Tyrell

co-inherence nicely laid out...

s.a. Miroslav Volf, Exclusion and Embrace, Nashville, Abingdon, 1996, pp.127-128 and his reference to G.L. Prestige, God in Patristic Thought, London, S.P.C.K., 1956.Martinericson 21:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Trinity

Just noticed that some things about the Holy Spirit and the Trinitarian role of salvation has found its way into this article, but it is supposed to be only about Perichoresis - the relationship of unity between God the Father and God the Son. Perhaps it could use a little cleanup to stay on topic. Kristamaranatha (talk) 21:47, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, if I'm not incorrect, this term may have a difference sense of use or acceptance among 1) Roman Catholics 2) Greek Orthodox and 3) Protestant conservatives (some of whom seem to see it as too loose or too loosely applied, although I am not yet sure how they find it so. It might be useful, if anyone knows more about that, to put a short 2-3 liner in discussing why (having to do with the procession of the Spirit, between 1 and 2, I'm fairly sure that at least needs to be clarified since the two systems don't see that the same way.) Thanks--Dellaroux (talk) 16:28, 13 September 2010 (UTC)