Talk:Sunday roast

they don't call it sunday mash do they

its a roast so the proper way would be roast not mash so should mash not be added as the proper food in the meal but more like an other opions (like vegtarian version etc) sorry mash is for bangers and mash or pie etc...

Controversy

My mate "roasted" some chicken breasts on a wednesday night. Does this count as a roast? I reckon it's just a meal.

What, so he just put some chicken breasts in the oven and tried to pass it off as a roast? I agree with you, it's just a meal. In my opinion, the idea of a Sunday roast involves a joint of meat being cooked surrounded by roasting vegetables. The joint is then carved and shared out. Traditions such as pulling the wish-bone and stuffing the carcass may also be observed (these are not sexual references by the way). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.118.117.219 (talk) 14:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

This article states: "Known as Sunday dinner, the meal was also common in New England in the northeastern United States until the mid twentieth century, though the custom still exists." Hmmm, most - nearly all in fact - Americans still eat Sunday dinner (not to mention breakfast, lunch, and the odd supper), whether in New England or elsewhere, so not sure what this article is trying to say here, although Yorkshire Pudding isn't typically on the menu (then if ever). Something must be being lost in translation from UK English to US English. Jmdeur (talk) 23:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Merger

I disagree with the merge thing. a Carvery is normally like a Roast Dinner, but in a buffet form.

I disagree also. Carvery although consiting of similar food is served on any day of the week and in buffet form as mentioned above

I agree, Carvery is different. It's explicitly in buffet, in a restaurant Sunday Roast is often not served in that form. While a Carvery can have a 'Sunday Roast' menu, a Sunday Roast isn't just the food it's how it's about the ritual etc (i.e. preferably yer mum cooks it).

I also disagree. Since Carvery can be served any day, it should not be merged with Sunday roast which obviously happens on sunday.

Merge and move to Roast dinner, on the grounds that the meals can theoretically be eaten on any day of the week, they are just most common and traditional on Sunday. The two articles are almost identical, there's no sensible reason not to merge. DWaterson 12:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, I got here from a link suggesting that 'Sunday Roast' be merged with 'Sunday Dinner'... this seems like an obvious thing to do as they are exactly the same thing, and 'Sunday Lunch' should direct to the same page also. 'Roast Dinner' and 'Carvery' however should remain separate items, as a roast dinner can be taken any day of the week and a carvery is, as you say, a thing you get in a restaurant (like a buffet with hot food), even though it may well resemble a Sunday Roast. These items should also link back to 'Sunday Roast/Dinner' as they are closely related. SB 11:02, 18 February 2007

I don't think there's anything more that could be added to "Sunday roast" that couldn't be included as a paragraph within a longer article on "Roast dinner" (since as you agree they can be taken any day of the week). So, with the exception of carvery (which is obviously a quite different thing), I would merge them all and move as I suggested above. DWaterson 11:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the merge --ukexpat 12:02, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Merged

I've gone ahead an merged two sentences that were useful, however this part may also be of interest:

Historically, Sunday dinner may have originated from the time of building the great cathedrals in England and Europe. Citizens of most parishes were expected to put in an amount of work helping to build or improve the churches and cathedrals, as part of their religious duties. In payment for their labour, they received what may have been their only hot meat meal of the week. As Sunday would normally be the only day available to perform such duties, the association with a substantial meal arose.

However, as it has been tagged as unsourced for several months, I haven't included it yet but placed it here for discussion. Cheers, DWaterson 12:26, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Roast potatoes

The article suggests that the modern practice of using oil to roast the spuds is due to health factors. I'd say its more likely come about because modern methods of husbandry have made the joints of meat are much leaner than they used to be (owing something to consumer demand and something of a pity IMO) and so there's nowhere near enough proper dripping to coat the spuds properly. If I find a ref I'll add it. Plutonium27 (talk) 13:06, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Sunday Roast picture

The description of the picture is "Sunday roast consisting of roast beef, roast potatoes, vegetables and Yorkshire pudding". The picture depicts a roast dinner with mashed potatoes rather than roast potatoes. Has anyone got a picture of a traditional English Sunday Roast with roast potatoes? Stutley (talk) 14:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Origin

What is the origin of the Sunday Roast? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.15.184 (talk) 19:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)