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Welcome!

Hello, Licorne, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! FloNight ^talk 14:46, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

66.194.104.5 and 69.22.98.146

Hello, Licorne. Welcome to Wikipedia! To help accurately tally the recent vote on Talk:Henri Poincaré, and so I know which anonymous editors to continue to encourage to register, please identify whether you are the editor formerly known as 66.194.104.5 and 69.22.98.146. The Rod 05:06, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please declare whether you are the editor formerly known as 66.194.104.5 and 69.22.98.146. The Rod 17:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your reluctance to say whether you are the same editor as 66.194.104.5 and 69.22.98.146 makes it difficult to assume good faith toward you. It leaves the impression that the anonymous accounts are your sock puppets. If you simply say that you are the same editor, it will be clear that you are not intentionally using them as sock puppets.

Are you same editor as 66.194.104.5 and 69.22.98.146? The Rod 04:22, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In view of this [this response] by 17.255.240.78 to a criticism of Licorne (Sorry to Licorne, my criticism was bad) you might ask him if he is the same editor as 17.255.240.78, who also contributed to the poll on the Poincare talk page. E4mmacro 05:40, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might ask him about all these IP addresses which voted "to retain" in the poll.

E4mmacro 06:39, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

E4, how dare you make false accusations ! Licorne 13:58, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You continue to avoid answering the question. That refusal, combined with this claim strongly suggests that you are using anonymous IP addresses as sock puppets. If you do not say whether you also edit as 66.194.104.5 or 69.22.98.146, I will file a user-conduct RfC regarding your behavior. The Rod 17:23, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

STOP FALSE ACCUSATIONS ! Licorne 21:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I assume that is supposed to be an answer of "no". Correct me if I misunderstood you. The Rod 00:54, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have been accused of being everyone on Earth, cut it out !! -- let me ask you rod, are you adolf hitler at 117 ? Licorne 01:45, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand what "adolf hilter at 117" means, nor do I know what specific accusations are you referring to when you ask me to "cut it out". In order to help manage the dispute about Einstein and Poincaré, I am merely asking you to clarify whether you have edited as User:66.194.104.5 or User:69.22.98.146. If not, I will encourage the editor with those IP addresses to register for an account. If you are the same person, there is no point in doing so. The Rod 19:48, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GO ahead tell them to register. Licorne 21:52, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Licorne and 69.22.98.146

Licorne posted the personal attack in this post. It was deleted by The Rod in this post. The very next change to the Poincare talk page, in the spot where Rod's deletion occured, contained the words "I have a PERFECT RIGHT to be angry ..." posted by 69.22.98.146.

Although Licorne hasn't yet confirmed or denied that he is 69/66, even though The Rod asked, I think it is obvious: Licorne and 69.22.98.146 are one and the same. Licorne, if you are not the fellow 66/69 who overloads my email inbox with pleas, insults, orders and so on, please say so. E4mmacro 22:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The clear inference from the above is that 69.22.98.146 thought he had a perfect right to be angry and post insults of me under the name of Licorne. The most reasonable explanation I can think of is that 69.22.98.146 is in fact you, Licorne. E4mmacro 20:09, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Licorne and 69.22.98.162

Rod: User 69.22.98.162, who has a very similar style and concerns as Licorne and all the above IP addresses, has revealed his name as Dean Mamas with a Ph. D. from UCLA. I think I can now say that Dean Mamas has emailed me many times with concerns over what I or Harald or Green were doing on the Poincare page. E4mmacro 09:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attacks

Hello, Licorne. personal attacks, like the ones in this post, are not appropriate anywhere in Wikipedia. Please refrain from making them. The Rod 17:31, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

fastfission started it. Licorne 22:03, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was 2 or 3 attacks on E4mmacro that were deleted. What has fastfission got to do with it? E4mmacro 23:03, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of who "started it", please read Wikipedia:No personal attacks, which explains, "There is no excuse for personal attacks on other contributors. Do not make them." The Rod 17:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Licorne = De kludde = 69/66?

Licorne, can you give me any reason not to think that you're the same person as the one who's using the De kludde account, and also posting from 69.22.98.146 and 66.194.104.5? --Alvestrand 23:43, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia policies

There are a few Wikipedia policies you don't seem to understand very well. Please take the time to read them, as it will save us all some time in discussions about article content. These are iron-clad policies and are not negotiable.

Thanks. --Fastfission 14:28, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I use hard SOURCES always Licorne 14:33, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A request

Licorne, there is obviously controversy surrounding Einstein and issues of priority. There may need to be some revision in the way history apportions credit for various discoveries related to special and general relativity among Einstein, Poincaré, Hilbert and others. You might be able to help in this regard. But the way you are approaching this issue is doing no good. Can we discuss this please? Paul August ☎ 16:45, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Licorne I am trying to assume good faith on your part. Will you please respond to my request? Paul August ☎ 04:06, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NPA

Hi, I just stopped by the Albert Einstein article to revert a change someone inadvertently made. I saw the NPOV tag and your litany on talk. All I can say is that you ought to read the no personal attacks, no original research and neutral point of view policies. As it is, you are wasting everyone's time, behaving reprehensibly and liable to get into trouble with comments such as "Are you blind ? ? -- Can't you read English ? ?" –Joke 20:40, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let me reiterate. This [1] is unacceptable. Do not do it. Please read no personal attacks. You can leave a message on my talkpage if you have questions about the policy. –Joke 23:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to echo Joke. You cannot accuse other editors, such as myself, to be not intelligent. The policy is very clear on it. This has to stop, otherwise continuing the discussion will be senseless. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 14:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RFC

I've opened a Request for Comments about your behavior. You can see it at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Licorne and are encouraged to give a response on that page. --Fastfission 17:28, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Licorne, I have endorsed the RFC, page. I think I tried to resolve disputes with you by email. I am reluctant to reveal those emails, so have not claimed on the RFC that I tried to resolve disputes with you. E4mmacro 20:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please respond

Licorne, won't you please respond to my request above? In addition as Fastfission has mentioned above an Request for Comments has been created concerning your behavior at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Licorne. I would also ask you to please respond there, there is a special section reserved there for your response. Wikipedia is a community of editors who are expected to work together to resolve any problems which may arise concerning issues of content or behavior of editors. By failing to respond you are in effect saying that you do not wish to be part of this community. You may well be prohibited from editing if you continue in this way. You seem to have some knowledge in this area, and you could make considerable contributions, but you will have to conform Wikipedia's editorial policies and communities standards. Again please respond. Either here or on my talk page or at the RFC. Paul August ☎ 20:13, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are beneath me. I have no wish to speak to a lay person. Licorne 20:21, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok (I'm not exactly a lay person I have a PhD in mathematics) you don't have to talk to me about technical issues, which you think are beyond my abilities, but what about issues related to your behavior? But if you won't talk with me, won't you please talk about the issues people have with your behavior with someone? Surely you don't think the entire community of editors is "beneath" you? Won't you please respond at your RfC? Paul August ☎ 20:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

None of them are physicists -- None of them is competent in these matters, yourself included. Also I have a perfect right to be as I am with you because none of you, with the possible exception of Harald, has any integrity whatsoever. -- So Stop sending me your incompetent messages, you do not exist, understand ? ! -- Licorne 20:53, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Questioning your statements

In Talk:Henri Poincaré, you said "And look Alvestan, don't you ever question me again, GOT IT ?".

Licorne, you've given me no reason to trust you. So I'll have to go on questioning until I have reason to believe you're speaking truthfully.

Given that you've chosen to reveal nothing about your qualifications or your past history, I cannot extend trust to your statements based on other evidence; I have to judge by your statements here on Wikipedia. And I don't see anything there that gives me reason to extend trust.

I'm sorry that you take offense at that attitude; I think that this will make it very hard for you to work with others here on Wikipedia. --Alvestrand 20:18, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have all been asses, as is. Licorne 20:22, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Harald is the only one with any integrity at all there. Wait for him to get back. Licorne 20:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 Ok (I'm not exactly a lay person I have a PhD in mathematics) you don't have to talk to me about technical issues, which you think are beyond my abilities, but what about issues related to your behavior?  But if you won't talk with me, won't you please talk about the issues people have with your behavior with someone? Surely you don't think the entire community of editors is "beneath" you? Won't you please respond at your RfC? [[User:Paul August|Paul August]] [[User_talk:Paul August|&#9742;]] 20:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
+None of them are physicists -- None of them is competent in these matters, yourself included. Also I have a perfect right to be as I am with you because none of you, with the possible exception of Harald, has any integrity whatsoever.  -- So Stop sending me your incompetent messages, you do not exist, understand ? ! -- [[User:Licorne|Licorne]] 20:53, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
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