User talk:موريسكو

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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Omar-Toons (talk) 18:50, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. What is decided upon the French language wikipedia effects only the French language wikipedia; here on the English language Wikipedia your actions are disruptive and if continued will lead to sanctions. LessHeard vanU (talk) 19:58, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

You have been blocked temporarily from editing for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

I have blocked you for 24 hours so you might read up on en-WP policy and understand how things work. While Wikipedia encourages editors to be WP:BOLD, it is fundamental that they work to Wikipedia:Consensus. You have already been advised that your edits, which may or may not be compliant with the French language Wikipedia, do not reflect the standing consensus on the English language Wikipedia. You may discuss your proposed changes on the article talkpages and try to change consensus, but you must not edit war to what you believe is the correct version - and certainly not without providing references and sources for your changes. If you have reliable third party sources (and French ones would be fine) then it would be best to present them on the article talkpage where they can be evaluated - it may even be that sources may disagree, and then the editors have the task of determining how to include both viewpoints. My purpose in blocking is, as I said, to allow you time to read up on how the English language Wikipedia does things, and also to convince you that doing it that way is the only way. I hope that I do not need to take such actions again. LessHeard vanU (talk) 10:53, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi, you did not take time to understand what happened. See who started the edit war: Revision history of Almohad caliphate, The first undo of Omar-Toons on Almohad caliphate, Revision history of Almoravid dynasty, The first undo of Omar-Toons on Almoravid dynasty. You blocked me after these modifictions [1], [2], knowing that I left messages on the talkpages [3], [4] ; could you please explain me why have you blocked me ? Taking into account the elements that I presented, how the standing consensus on the English language Wikipedia differs from the French language Wikipedia in our case ? Regards--Morisco (talk) 12:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

You should discuss the reasons first, which is different to stating what you are doing and why, and make sure that it is agreed upon. There are different enough worldviews amongst the English speaking nations, and it may be found that the French language(s) viewpoint is different again. In editing the English language Wikipedia, it must be kept in mind who the articles are being written for. This is only possible if the editors concerned discuss the proposed edits, and the sources being used as references. LessHeard vanU (talk) 15:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I agree with, we should discuss the reasons, but in my opinion it is the person who brings the change to discuss it, and in our case it is Omar-Toons who initiated the edit war. And if there is diffrent worldviews, only one is right: facts and historical truth. Regards--Morisco (talk) 19:08, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah, but Wikipedia follows "Verifiability, not truth". I would also suggest that "facts and historical truth" very much depend on geo-political considerations - the history between France and England especially is very likely to be viewed differently depending on whether one is a native English or French speaker, for instance. Such considerations need to be recognised. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

The truth without verifiability can not claim to be so, since the lack of verifiable references makes the information not credible.

If I may, I suggest you next time to check what happened before blocking a Wikipedian, although I understand that this is not always easy with the lack of time and the number of requests. Kind regards--Morisco (talk) 17:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

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Omar-Toons (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Welcome!

• Hello dear brother, Why did you delete the link to the Arabic page (interwiki problem when the template is present in articles) see here , what is the problem please...?.--ترجمان05 (talk) 17:54, 17 December 2010 (UTC)