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-'''If I started a thread on your talk page, I am watching. Please reply there.'''</font></center>
-<center>'''To leave me a message [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Anna_Frodesiak&action=edit&section=new click here].</center>
-==Archives==
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-== About your userpage ==
-Hi Anna, just wanted to tell you I think your userpage is awful. I am sorry..I needed to express that. Thanks --[[User:Camilo Sanchez|Camilo Sanchez]] ([[User talk:Camilo Sanchez|talk]]) 03:04, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-:Wow. Revenge, eh? That's the first time I've seen that on Wikipedia. But really, I know you love my user page. You're just mad because [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ted_Williams_(announcer)#This_article_is_awful I spoke up] and you don't agree with my view. (There are better ways to respond to opposing views other than revenge.) No hard feelings from me. :) [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak#top|talk]]) 03:16, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-::No, seriously, no hard feelings, I truly felt like that when I saw your page. But has nothing to do with what you said or did. --[[User:Camilo Sanchez|Camilo Sanchez]] ([[User talk:Camilo Sanchez|talk]]) 03:23, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-:::I was born at night. But not last night. Neither of us believe that. :) [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak#top|talk]]) 03:25, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-::::If you weren't born last night you should be willing to accept some criticism to your page. I don't need an excuse to tell you i didn't like your page from the aesthetic point of view. --[[User:Camilo Sanchez|Camilo Sanchez]] ([[User talk:Camilo Sanchez|talk]]) 03:34, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-:::::"I don't like it" isn't a form of criticism, Camilo, and the only reason you came here was because you were annoyed at Anna's comments about the Ted Williams article and you decided to lash out at her. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, so that isn't very helpful.  Yeah, Anna could have been more diplomatic about her comments on the Ted Williams talk page, but she didn't address any editors.  Whether she was right or wrong in doing so, she called the article "awful", and you came here to do the same.  Two wrongs don't make a right, and you would have been much better off explaining to Anna that because you had made a whopping 4 edits to the article,[http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&page=Ted+Williams+%28announcer%29&since=&until=&grouped=on&order=-edit_count&max=100&order=-edit_count&format=html] you took her comments personally.  I hope Anna decides to word her comments in a more neutral manner in the future, so as to avoid this kind of situation again. However, we are human, and we often respond from an emotional state, and it gets the better of us sometimes.  The trick is to acknowledge our mistakes, learn from them, and move on. Both of you can do better than this. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 10:14, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-You might not need an excuse, but that was quite obviously your excuse. We've never had even a smidgen of contact before. I [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ted_Williams_(announcer)#This_article_is_awful criticized the Ted Williams article], an article you've been working on, and 9 minutes later you, out of the blue, criticized my user page. Please note the following facts:
-* I'm not daft.
-* It was not a coincidence.
-* Users don't, out of the blue, tell someone they don't like aesthetics of their user page.
-* You secretly love my user page.
-* I was probably a bit harsh in my criticism of the article.
-* Seriously, let's stop. This has been a hoot, but we both have work to do.
-Happy editing, [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak#top|talk]]) 03:56, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-:It has NOTHING to do with the Ted Williams article....if it did, I would tell you, yes I was mad, so I left that message, I am 32 for Christ sake! --[[User:Camilo Sanchez|Camilo Sanchez]] ([[User talk:Camilo Sanchez|talk]]) 06:36, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-::Heck of a coincidence. What are the odds? Okay. So I'll take your word for it. It was out of the blue. <s>One question: Do you normally drop by strangers' user pages and tell them you don't like the look, aesthetically? I wouldn't. I would consider that uncalled for and unkind. It could result in a paragraph or two of wasted energy.  </s>[[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak#top|talk]]) 06:47, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-Strike that. Please don't answer. Just stop. You came to my talk to insult me, yell at me with capitalization, and give me a "for christ's sake". This is a blemish on your history of conduct. Please just stay off my talk page. I don't want to play anymore. Thanks. [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak#top|talk]]) 07:03, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-:Anna, I think it would help greatly if you would change the header on the Ted Williams talk page from "This article is awful" to "Article issues" or some other neutral heading.  You may also want to rewrite your comments to tone them down, and make a note that you've done so.  [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 10:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-===Outside view===
-I created this image to cheer the both of you up. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:28, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-[[File:Hatersgonnahate.jpg|thumb|left]]
-{{clear}}
-Awwwww. That's very. The artist in you has finally emerged.
-I should have just replied in the beginning: "Noted. --Anna Frodesiak.", and this would never have taken 15 minutes of my life. Lesson learned. I will archive this very soon to remove this "canvas" onto which unpleasant words can be exchanged.
-Thanks again. I feel much better. :) [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak#top|talk]]) 10:15, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-:No worries.  Two things that can help develop a thick skin: cultivate the psychology of water, such that it falls off a duck's back and flows under a bridge. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 10:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-===Reasons and reconciliations===
-Hi Viriditas and Camilo Sanchez:
-Viriditas: "Anna could have been more diplomatic..." is an excellent point. I agree completely. My offence, the title "This article is awful" should have been entitled: "This article could use a lot of work".
-I re-read my post and regretted it. I actually posted a little later on that I didn't mean to offend. For those of you who have seen my edits, this was very out of character for me.
-The reasons did not justify such a harsh title. But I should tell you the reasons anyway: A dozen editors all fought for its existence voting '''keep'''. Then, when I visited the page, I saw several Youtube links, at least one blog link, the missing image redlink sitting right in the infobox, and many other glaring issues. 40,000 visitors saw that in the past 24 hours. And, nobody was doing anything about it. Instead, they were all quarreling over if the AfD tag should be removed.
-Camilo Sanchez: You're more than welcome to post here if you want, but please, no insults, caps, or Christs.
-Wikilove and Best wishes, [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak#top|talk]]) 10:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-== A gazillion padded zeros later ... ==
-I think I added the sort function correctly, each number has to be padded to the same number of places. I would hate to have to do it to list of hundreds of entries. I started [[Bird kill]] but it only has two entries. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 03:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
-:Wonderful. I will maybe put an invisible blank or two there for other users. I will take a look at it. Many thanks for your time.
-:I saw your bird kill article. You probably saw I added the template. I looked high and low for a dot gov image, but no luck.
-:I uploaded Fish Kill 745F2A9C-65B8-D693-7ABA3282F6A1ECE4 at commons because it is graphically better. But I couldn't find a description. Do you think Salton Sea image is still best? [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak#top|talk]]) 03:50, 7 January 2011 (UTC)