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Opening comment

This page should be a dab. There are more than 30 parks and canyons in the U.S. named Red Rock Canyon:

Parks

Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area; Clark County, Nevada
Red Rock Canyon State Park (California); Kern County, California
Red Rock Canyon State Park (Oklahoma); Caddo County, Oklahoma

Canyons

Red Rock Canyon; Cochise County, Arizona
Red Rock Canyon; Maricopa County, Arizona
Red Rock Canyon; Imperial County, California
Red Rock Canyon; Lassen County, California
Red Rock Canyon; Los Angeles County, California
Red Rock Canyon; Mono County, California
Red Rock Canyon; San Luis Obispo County, California
Red Rock Canyon; La Plata County, Colorado
Red Rock Canyon; Las Animas County, Colorado
Red Rock Canyon; Moffat County, Colorado
Red Rock Canyon; Montrose County, Colorado
Left Fork Red Rock Canyon; Rio Blanco County, Colorado
Middle Fork Red Rock Canyon; Rio Blanco County, Colorado
Red Rock Canyon; Rio Blanco County, Colorado
Red Rock Canyon; Saguache County, Colorado
Red Rock Canyon; Bear Lake County, Idaho
Red Rock Canyon; Clark County, Nevada
Redrock Canyon; Lander County, Nevada
Red Rock Canyon; Nye County, Nevada
Red Rock Canyon; Storey County, Nevada
Red Rock Canyon; Washoe County, Nevada
Red Rock Canyon; White Pine County, Nevada
Redrock Canyon; Grant County, New Mexico
Red Rock Canyon; Jackson County, Oregon
Red Rock Canyon; Malheur County, Oregon
Red Rock Canyon; Burnet County, Texas
Red Rock Canyon; Summit County, Utah

Support or Oppose

Support. Sounds reasonable. Vegaswikian 07:57, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've completed the move and created the disambiguation page from the info here on this talk page. —Cleared as filed. 18:46, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Geology section seems fubar

The geology section is at odds with what I have learned about the area. It relies heavily on an unreputable source, sunsetcities.com, which in turn appears at first glance to have been written by someone technically challenged, literacy challenged, and plagiarism challenged.

Aspects that I question:

The Keystone Thrust certainly didn't run "through most of North America".
Why mention the name of the Mesozoic Aztec formation but not the Paleozoic formation? Perhaps because most easily Googled pop Web pages only name the sandstone. I believe the older rock is called the Bonanza King formation.
I believe the rust is in the sandstone, not the impermeable evaporites.
The picture that's supposed to illustrate the thrust is misleading. I might be wrong, but I don't think the thrust is the prominent foreground feature; I think it's in the far background. Also, the picture appears to be a flattened panorama.
The sediment eventually formed limestone, dolomite, and shale. The pop sources just say limestone.

I would like to make corrections, but not without posting this message here first. The History page shows that some people have made "fixes" to the Geology section as recently as last year, so I don't want to appear to be vandalizing if there's going to be some debate. Kkken (talk) 17:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Added 05/16/2011 ny HWS: I'll add that it is definitely fubar. The "deep basin" for the Paleozoics is extremely misleading; the section is deep because of coeval subsidence, but most all were deposited in shallow water (google "Bonanza King Formation" and stromatolites). The bizarre bit about the red color is way out of place, and will make readers think the red color of the Aztec Sandstones originated millions of years before they were deposited. The author should get "Geologic Tours in the Las Vegas Area (expanded editions)" by Tingley et al. (2001). This highly misinformative section has propagated all over the web.

Mikey the Tortoise

At the Visitors' Center, there's now a male tortoise born in August of 1985 called Mikey. Alright, fine, I donated him to Red Rock after Mojave Max died. I have the slip of paper near me that gives me great thanks for the donation. I owned him from August of 1985 to July of 2009. He was my pet, but I became unable to care for him properly so I decided it would be best to donate him to a place where he'd be cared for for the rest of his life. Sierraoffline444 (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be sure to look him up next visit! Kkken (talk) 07:51, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"September 6, 2006 yet another fire was started by lightning in the loop near the visitor's center and burned around 1,500 acres (610 ha)."

Just stating the REAL facts, as I was there the moment this fire was started. A construction worker on a steamroller was smoking a cigarette while steamrolling newly-laid pavement at the intersection of the Loop Exit and 159. He tossed his cigarette out to the brush and over about 15 minutes, the fire started with smoke first then flames. He was neither held accountable nor investigated as the idiot who started this. It doesn't surprise in the course of Nevada politics that the cause was dishonestly blamed on lightning, though it was a CRYSTAL CLEAR morning. Must've been freak lightning, eh? Fictional Science Sextuple Feature! 04:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MagentaTimCurryElbowSex (talk • contribs)

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 I would like to make corrections, but not without posting this message here first.  The History page shows that some people have made "fixes" to the Geology section as recently as last year, so I don't want to appear to be vandalizing if there's going to be some debate.
 [[User:Kkken|Kkken]] ([[User talk:Kkken|talk]]) 17:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
+Added 05/16/2011 ny HWS: I'll add that it is definitely fubar. The "deep basin" for the Paleozoics is extremely misleading; the section is deep because of coeval subsidence, but most all were deposited in shallow water (google "Bonanza King Formation" and stromatolites).  The bizarre bit about the red color is way out of place, and will make readers think the red color of the Aztec Sandstones originated millions of years before they were deposited.  The author should get "Geologic Tours in the Las Vegas Area (expanded editions)" by Tingley et al. (2001).  This highly misinformative section has propagated all over the web.
 == Mikey the Tortoise ==