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== Nobility in Germany abolished in 1919, no more noble titles == |
== Nobility in Germany abolished in 1919, no more noble titles == |
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In Germany, after nobility had been officially abolished with the establishment of the [[Weimar Republic]] in 1919, former [[[[Royal and noble ranks|noble titles]] were made part of the person's [[surname]], and all former noblemen became [[citizen]]s. First name: ''Alexander'', last name: ''[[Alexander Graf Lambsdorff|Graf Lambsdorff]]'' (short form). It is a mere courtesy to address him as "Graf Lambsdorff" (Count Lambsdorff); it is correct to say "Herr Graf Lambsdorff" (Mr. Count Lambsdorff, as in 'Mr. Smith'). The template, as it is, suggests that individuals with former noble titles in their names who lived after 1919, such as Alexander Graf Lambsdorff or his father [[Otto Graf Lambsdorff|Otto]] (born in 1926), were/are noblemen, which is incorrect.[[User:Lexiken|Lexiken]] ([[User talk:Lexiken|talk]]) 19:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC) |
In Germany, after nobility had been officially abolished with the establishment of the [[Weimar Republic]] in 1919, former [[[[Royal and noble ranks|noble titles]] were made part of the person's [[surname]], and all former noblemen became [[citizen]]s. First name: ''Alexander'', last name: ''[[Alexander Graf Lambsdorff|Graf Lambsdorff]]'' (short form). It is a mere courtesy to address him as "Graf Lambsdorff" (Count Lambsdorff); it is correct to say "Herr Graf Lambsdorff" (Mr. Count Lambsdorff, as in 'Mr. Smith'). The template, as it is, suggests that individuals with former noble titles in their names who lived after 1919, such as Alexander Graf Lambsdorff or his father [[Otto Graf Lambsdorff|Otto]] (born in 1926), were/are noblemen, which is incorrect.[[User:Lexiken|Lexiken]] ([[User talk:Lexiken|talk]]) 19:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC) |
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+ACK. The templates should be changed. Since 1919, "Prinz" or "von" is just part of the last name of a person, but not a title. [[Special:Contributions/85.179.38.171|85.179.38.171]] ([[User talk:85.179.38.171|talk]]) 08:48, 7 August 2011 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 08:48, 7 August 2011
Initial comment
It all looks very, very good. I'm impressed! However, what is the input supposed to look like for the alternative templates? Charles 00:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- I've added the usage to the alternatives section. Basically, just pass the title/rank as a parameter:
{{German title|Freiherr}}--Swift 02:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Nobility in Germany abolished in 1919, no more noble titles
In Germany, after nobility had been officially abolished with the establishment of the Weimar Republic in 1919, former [[noble titles were made part of the person's surname, and all former noblemen became citizens. First name: Alexander, last name: Graf Lambsdorff (short form). It is a mere courtesy to address him as "Graf Lambsdorff" (Count Lambsdorff); it is correct to say "Herr Graf Lambsdorff" (Mr. Count Lambsdorff, as in 'Mr. Smith'). The template, as it is, suggests that individuals with former noble titles in their names who lived after 1919, such as Alexander Graf Lambsdorff or his father Otto (born in 1926), were/are noblemen, which is incorrect.Lexiken (talk) 19:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
+ACK. The templates should be changed. Since 1919, "Prinz" or "von" is just part of the last name of a person, but not a title. 85.179.38.171 (talk) 08:48, 7 August 2011 (UTC)