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[[User:Frank Koehler|Frank Koehler]] ([[User talk:Frank Koehler|talk]]) 12:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
[[User:Frank Koehler|Frank Koehler]] ([[User talk:Frank Koehler|talk]]) 12:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
:Results have been mixed, Frank. That's pretty much indisputable, and I don't see how cherry-picking some studies with one particular finding has any relevance. We shouldn't really be citing primary sources at all in this article. [[User:Jakew|Jakew]] ([[User talk:Jakew|talk]]) 13:06, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
:Results have been mixed, Frank. That's pretty much indisputable, and I don't see how cherry-picking some studies with one particular finding has any relevance. We shouldn't really be citing primary sources at all in this article. [[User:Jakew|Jakew]] ([[User talk:Jakew|talk]]) 13:06, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
::And less mixed as new information comes in, as these new studies show. At the very least, these three recent studies should be cited along with the other 7 primary sources already given.[[User:Frank Koehler|Frank Koehler]] ([[User talk:Frank Koehler|talk]]) 18:26, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


== Positions of medical associations - Germany ==
== Positions of medical associations - Germany ==

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Erectile Dysfunction - ED

Three new studies report that circumcision is a risk factor for ED, and two have measured it with statistical significance. Two found about the same high risk factor. With these new articles showing a strong correlation I don't think we can any longer say "Reports... have been mixed." These new studies should be included. They are:

Worsened erectile functioning - Bailey RC, Egesah O, Rosenberg S. Male circumcision for HIV prevention: a prospective study of complications in clinical and traditional settings in Bungoma, Kenya. Bull World Health Organ. 2008;86(9):669-77.
Circumcised men 4.53 (p = .006) times more likely to develop ED - Bollinger D, Van Howe, RS. Alexithymia and circumcision trauma: A preliminary investigation. Int J Men’s Health, 2011;10(2):184-95.
Circumcised men 4.88 (p < .001) times more likely to develop ED - Tang WS, Khoo EM. Prevalence and correlates of premature ejaculation in a primary care setting: A preliminary cross-sectional study. J Sex Med, 14 Apr 2011, Available online at: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2011.02280.x/abstract

Frank Koehler (talk) 12:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Results have been mixed, Frank. That's pretty much indisputable, and I don't see how cherry-picking some studies with one particular finding has any relevance. We shouldn't really be citing primary sources at all in this article. Jakew (talk) 13:06, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And less mixed as new information comes in, as these new studies show. At the very least, these three recent studies should be cited along with the other 7 primary sources already given.Frank Koehler (talk) 18:26, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Positions of medical associations - Germany

The Robert Koch Institute, the Federal Centre for Health Education (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung/BZgA) und Deutsche AIDS-Hilfe (DAH) have issued a joint statement on circumcision and HIV. The report (Positionspapier) "Circumcision and HIV" ("Beschneidung und HIV") is from 2007 and the conclusion is: Circumcision has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV infection and it will probably be used for prevention in countries like Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland, and Tanzania... but the Robert-Koch-Institute, the BZgA and the DAH do not recommend circumcision for prevention of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in European men (because the HIV prevalence rate is <1% and thousands of men would have to be circumcized to reduce the risk of HIV infection). You can download the report "Beschneidung und HIV" here: [1]

Is this worth mentioning in the article? --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 20:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]