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[[User:Frank Koehler|Frank Koehler]] ([[User talk:Frank Koehler|talk]]) 12:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
[[User:Frank Koehler|Frank Koehler]] ([[User talk:Frank Koehler|talk]]) 12:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
:Results have been mixed, Frank. That's pretty much indisputable, and I don't see how cherry-picking some studies with one particular finding has any relevance. We shouldn't really be citing primary sources at all in this article. [[User:Jakew|Jakew]] ([[User talk:Jakew|talk]]) 13:06, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
:Results have been mixed, Frank. That's pretty much indisputable, and I don't see how cherry-picking some studies with one particular finding has any relevance. We shouldn't really be citing primary sources at all in this article. [[User:Jakew|Jakew]] ([[User talk:Jakew|talk]]) 13:06, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
::And less mixed as new information comes in, as these new studies show. At the very least, these three recent studies should be cited along with the other 7 primary sources already given.[[User:Frank Koehler|Frank Koehler]] ([[User talk:Frank Koehler|talk]]) 18:26, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
::There was no hand-picking involved and I object to your insinuation and ask for an apology. These are the latest three I could find. Two were published just months ago. As time goes on, the trend being revealed is "less mixed." At the very least, these three recent studies should be cited along with the other 7 primary sources already given.[[User:Frank Koehler|Frank Koehler]] ([[User talk:Frank Koehler|talk]]) 18:26, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


== Positions of medical associations - Germany ==
== Positions of medical associations - Germany ==

Revision as of 18:32, 28 September 2011

Erectile Dysfunction - ED

Three new studies report that circumcision is a risk factor for ED, and two have measured it with statistical significance. Two found about the same high risk factor. With these new articles showing a strong correlation I don't think we can any longer say "Reports... have been mixed." These new studies should be included. They are:

Worsened erectile functioning - Bailey RC, Egesah O, Rosenberg S. Male circumcision for HIV prevention: a prospective study of complications in clinical and traditional settings in Bungoma, Kenya. Bull World Health Organ. 2008;86(9):669-77.
Circumcised men 4.53 (p = .006) times more likely to develop ED - Bollinger D, Van Howe, RS. Alexithymia and circumcision trauma: A preliminary investigation. Int J Men’s Health, 2011;10(2):184-95.
Circumcised men 4.88 (p < .001) times more likely to develop ED - Tang WS, Khoo EM. Prevalence and correlates of premature ejaculation in a primary care setting: A preliminary cross-sectional study. J Sex Med, 14 Apr 2011, Available online at: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2011.02280.x/abstract

Frank Koehler (talk) 12:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Results have been mixed, Frank. That's pretty much indisputable, and I don't see how cherry-picking some studies with one particular finding has any relevance. We shouldn't really be citing primary sources at all in this article. Jakew (talk) 13:06, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There was no hand-picking involved and I object to your insinuation and ask for an apology. These are the latest three I could find. Two were published just months ago. As time goes on, the trend being revealed is "less mixed." At the very least, these three recent studies should be cited along with the other 7 primary sources already given.Frank Koehler (talk) 18:26, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Positions of medical associations - Germany

The Robert Koch Institute, the Federal Centre for Health Education (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung/BZgA) und Deutsche AIDS-Hilfe (DAH) have issued a joint statement on circumcision and HIV. The report (Positionspapier) "Circumcision and HIV" ("Beschneidung und HIV") is from 2007 and the conclusion is: Circumcision has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV infection and it will probably be used for prevention in countries like Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland, and Tanzania... but the Robert-Koch-Institute, the BZgA and the DAH do not recommend circumcision for prevention of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in European men (because the HIV prevalence rate is <1% and thousands of men would have to be circumcized to reduce the risk of HIV infection). You can download the report "Beschneidung und HIV" here: [1]

Is this worth mentioning in the article? --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 20:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]