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::That is the nice part of Wikipedia: different opinions and different views. If you don't like my suggestion (yet), so be it. I accept your arguments and will not interfere with your work. Happy editing! [[User:Night of the Big Wind|<font face="Old English Text MT"><font color="green">Night of the Big Wind</font></font>]] [[User talk:Night of the Big Wind|<font color="maroon"><sub><i>talk</i></sub></font>]] 00:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC) |
::That is the nice part of Wikipedia: different opinions and different views. If you don't like my suggestion (yet), so be it. I accept your arguments and will not interfere with your work. Happy editing! [[User:Night of the Big Wind|<font face="Old English Text MT"><font color="green">Night of the Big Wind</font></font>]] [[User talk:Night of the Big Wind|<font color="maroon"><sub><i>talk</i></sub></font>]] 00:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC) |
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:::I have chopped out large chunks of background content not directly about the company itself as it does not belong in this article. If it belongs anywhere it should be in a separate article about mislabeling. I will keep the text in a user subpage if anyone wants access to it ([[User:Ukexpat/Seafood mislabelling]]). – [[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 14:39, 1 February 2012 (UTC) |
:::I have chopped out large chunks of background content not directly about the company itself as it does not belong in this article. If it belongs anywhere it should be in a separate article about mislabeling. I will keep the text in a user subpage if anyone wants access to it ([[User:Ukexpat/Seafood mislabelling]]). – [[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 14:39, 1 February 2012 (UTC) |
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Dear UKexpat, While I understand your decision to arbitrarily and on your own volition to remove the only content in Wikipedia about almost every subject in your "chopped out large chunks", these were included in the article because they are necessary to understand why this company was formed, why the testing this company was first to start in the US is important, and, most importantly, why this company is relevant. The article could have been written with each of these topics explained from the company's point of view, but (a) I don't know the company's point of view because I only interviewed them twice and (b)that would introduce bias. Removing the information about many of the diseases and issues associated with seafood mislabeling from Wikipedia completely deprives the world of access to this information in the unbiased, encyclopaedic format from which it was presented unless you write an article using the content elsewhere. This information could easily be put elsewhere on Wikipedia as well, but the information is needed in this piece to understand the importance of this company. I appreciate your desire to cut out details that don't directly relate to the company's history, but removing all of the information without making any effort to place the content elsewhere on Wikipedia directly contradicts Wikipedia's mission to share important information for everyone's benefit. You may disagree that this content explaining why the company is important should be included, but a dozen other editors did not see the need to just press "delete" and remove the information from the world. |
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I am not happy with this article and to my opinion it should be rewritten and maybe split into serveral articles. I do not know if the company Applied Food Technologies is notable. Food risks due to mislabeling is in my humble opinion certainly notable as separate article. The same for Antimicrobials in Aquaculture. Off course, all three article has to be rewritten to let them match the Wikipedia quality standards, but it would be a waste to remove this article. But the present form is just not goed enough and confusing. Night of the Big Wind talk 21:16, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
- Night of the Big Wind. While I respect your opinion, I respectfully disagree with some points. First, Applied Food Technologies is notable in the United States within the Seafood Industry. The company is the only company that meets the FDA's recommendations for seafood species identification, which is the principle means of meeting the standards for a law that has been in place for decades. For this reason, the company is used by hundreds of companies in the industry to do their testing for them. I was fortunate enough to talk with the company, some of their customers, and some government officials before writing my Wiki article and I can assure you that within their industry they are notable, but I believe they are nationally notable as well (like I state in the article, they have been interviewed on national news broadcasts, national publications, and are the market share leader in their industry. Admittedly, their website is not the best, so I've had to look at these articles for most of the information on them that is in the article.
- Second, you are certainly right that the separate sections could probably be their own wiki articles. When I set out to write about the company, I realized there was no information on these very important topics in Wikipedia and set out to investigate. However, what I found is that the popular press does not mention companies can and do perform the types of testing mentioned in their reports, so including all the topics within a Wiki on the market leader in the US for this type of testing made sense. Furthermore, because this company essentially created the commercial industry for seafood species identification, making them notable, information about their industry makes sense in the same article as information about the company.
- As far as the article not being good enough or confusing, I can't speak to that as I am a recent graduate and this is my first article. However, the people I have shared the article with like the article and believe it is very informative. I added at least one criticism of the company today -before your opinion- that I found when the company appeared in a "news alert" I have set up about the company and am trying to be very informative and keep all the sections up to date while I am working on my second Wikipedia article. Thank you for your review and your feedback. Also, thank you for your agreement that it would be a waste to remove this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoathouseBob (talk • contribs) 23:44, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- That is the nice part of Wikipedia: different opinions and different views. If you don't like my suggestion (yet), so be it. I accept your arguments and will not interfere with your work. Happy editing! Night of the Big Wind talk 00:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- I have chopped out large chunks of background content not directly about the company itself as it does not belong in this article. If it belongs anywhere it should be in a separate article about mislabeling. I will keep the text in a user subpage if anyone wants access to it (User:Ukexpat/Seafood mislabelling). – ukexpat (talk) 14:39, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- That is the nice part of Wikipedia: different opinions and different views. If you don't like my suggestion (yet), so be it. I accept your arguments and will not interfere with your work. Happy editing! Night of the Big Wind talk 00:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Dear UKexpat, While I understand your decision to arbitrarily and on your own volition to remove the only content in Wikipedia about almost every subject in your "chopped out large chunks", these were included in the article because they are necessary to understand why this company was formed, why the testing this company was first to start in the US is important, and, most importantly, why this company is relevant. The article could have been written with each of these topics explained from the company's point of view, but (a) I don't know the company's point of view because I only interviewed them twice and (b)that would introduce bias. Removing the information about many of the diseases and issues associated with seafood mislabeling from Wikipedia completely deprives the world of access to this information in the unbiased, encyclopaedic format from which it was presented unless you write an article using the content elsewhere. This information could easily be put elsewhere on Wikipedia as well, but the information is needed in this piece to understand the importance of this company. I appreciate your desire to cut out details that don't directly relate to the company's history, but removing all of the information without making any effort to place the content elsewhere on Wikipedia directly contradicts Wikipedia's mission to share important information for everyone's benefit. You may disagree that this content explaining why the company is important should be included, but a dozen other editors did not see the need to just press "delete" and remove the information from the world.