User talk:Zappa.jake

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Fix sources? How were they broken?

Refering to your (now reverted) edits to Hākuturi. A lot of Polynesian myth articles have the Sources section this way. I like them to be consistent. Kahuroa 04:03, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Please read this. Thanks, zappa 04:06, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll leave it as is, but I would reccomend conforming to other Wikipedia article's style of a ==References== section at the bottom of the page. Thanks, zappa 04:08, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Daniel Webster Jones

Hey, I'm in the middle of beginning this article, and I noticed that you changed the title from Daniel Webster Jones (1830-1915) to Daniel Webster Jones (Mormon) while I was actually creating it. I haven't done a lot of editing yet, and this is still intended to be a stub, so maybe I'm missing some protocol, but I created it with the dates to distinguish him from the Arkansas governor (1839-1918) (which, I just looked at and see you've switched to governor as well. I did change the "what links here" sites and was in process of adding links to other articles such as Mesa, Arizona and Fay Wray. Why is governor/Mormon more appropriate to distinguish individuals than their birth/death dates? Additionally, DWJ (1830-1915/Mormon) is of interest to Western American history generally, not just Mormon history, and there is another figure, Dan Jones (Welsh missionary), in Mormon history who would probably eventually need to be disambiguated from the others.

I understand the simplicity of a one-word title; and I guess if I consider it, I can't really think of a better single word to distinguish DWJ (1830-1915) (though I do have a bit of a problem with the implied exclusivity of interest which might result from the title). Also, whose responsibility is it to change the "What links here" pages for the governor and the Mormon?

Thanks Ryan Reeder 21:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit: Apparently, you're working on it too at the moment, because it's changed again. Let me know what you're up to. Thanks.

Ryan Reeder 21:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I haven't done anything since changing the titles - I haven't edited anything else. Gererally, I don't edit under IPs unless I forget to log it and my cookies are broken, which doesn't happen often. Since your first message, I have been looking around the WP: namespace trying to find a style page about naming convention for people with similar names, but I haven't found anything official. I guess 95% of the time when I see two similarly named people around on Wikipedia, they are either distinguished with middle names or nicknames, or, if not, with (their occupation) after their name. For an example, see John Lee. Also, about changing the links with the governor, you really don't have to do that - they will redirect. When you move a page, it automatically redirects links to the old page to the new page. You have to check for double redirects, in the situation of A->B->C, where I want to get to A from a starting point, but the page is actually located at C, then the redirecting system will only take me to B. That is sort of confusing I realize, but I guess I don't know how to put it more clearly. But anyways, I checked for double redirects, and there were none, so the links don't need to be changed. I hope I didn't cause an edit conflict. Later, zappa 22:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

No, no edit conflict, just as a beginner here, I wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking any protocol. The example I looked at for a guide on similar names was John Taylor, which seems to be rather non-uniform. Some have birth/death dates, some have an occupation or something else. Perhaps there ought to be a standardized rule.

I think I'll leave what you have just to keep existing links OK, but I'll put back birth/death dates, to further clarify, without being a part of the link. Other names seem to have this convention.

I also figured that it was better to change things so that links go directly to a page, so that we get rid of any (redirected from XYZ) notes. Besides, a single redirect is halfway to a double, and it would be good to get rid of those just to erase the likelihood of getting a double. When a move is created, it then becomes the responsibility and courtesy of the mover to fix redirects so that they link directly to a page. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but this was how I interpreted the line "A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links." on the disambiguation page.

Again, thanks.

Ryan Reeder 22:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

plusoceanic

Just wanted to say, didn't want to ruffle any feathers about the 1984 thing. Thanks for reaching a compromise.--Josh Rocchio 05:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

No feathers ruffled. Not that I, erm, have any feathers. But yeah, I agree now that it is probably a better title, after seeing the majority of published versions with the numerals. But yeah, nice to know that you also have an account on the en:wiki. See you around I guess, zappa 05:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Tao (disambiguation)

Moved. Thx.--Skyfiler 03:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

AP

I hope you can enjoy my April Fools joke. If you havent looked on your user page yet, please disregard this message until you look at it! Please dont take it seriously. Contact me with any questions or concerns regarding the joke.But on a more serious note, i do have a question for you regarding the template boxes located at the bottom of your user page, mainly how you create them. Any help would be grate. Thankszoreos!--Geppy 03:24, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm always up for a joke! No problem man. I'll leave it up until someone takes it off or gets mad at me for flooding the speedy deletion candidates. I'm going to help you with whatever you needed regarding template boxes on your user page. Thanks, zappa 03:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey, do you know how to create new template boxes? You live in Minnesota?--Geppy 21:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I do live in Minnesota. I'll respond to your template box question on your talk page. See you in a minute, zappa 21:39, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

New Zealand Sign Language

You've edited the NZSL article claiming that NZSL is now an official language of New Zealand. From what I can gather about the royal assent process this seems highly unlikely. If you have evidence that royal assent has already been given to the New Zealand Sign Language Bill could you please point me to it?

Just some background. The bill doesn't become law in New Zealand until the Governor-General signs it (known as royal assent). Furthermore this particular bill contains a section stating the it doesn't come into effect until the day after royal assent. From what I can gather about royal assent, it looks like it generally happens on a Monday or Thursday. Also it may be that it only occurs when Parliament's sitting. Parliament is taking a break for Easter now, so we may be waiting until 2 May for NZSL to become an official language.

Ben Arnold 02:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

My bad. I thought something was fishy, but decided to update the article to what I thought was true at the time. On the front page, it said that it had just been made the official language - nothing about waiting for royal assent. I read through the article, but it referred to the royal assent as a "constitutional formality", which may be sort of degrading to its legal importance. Anyways, after reading that, I figured it was not a legal process anymore, just something for show. But I guess I trust Wikipedia's front page, so I updated it. Guess I should've dont more research. Thanks, zappa 22:50, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Editing someone else's user page

There is a difference between "self-explanation" and portraying one of the articles you've created incorrectly as an "overlord". I think your fooling yourself if you think that the user pages are somehow immune from truth, I mean, they can be edited for a reason. I know that when I research stuff on wikipedia I often go the the editors user page to see what kind of person created the page. And to see if they have any unencyclopedic comments about the subject. But don't worry, I won't edit yours again. Sorry.-User:Danbold 11:54, April 4, 2006

Thanks. It's tough being new to Wikipedia, and I just wanted to illustrate my point. Sometimes the best way to learn is through experience. I'll change it back to started - it's still true, and it doesn't really matter that much to me. Thanks for understanding, zappa 05:25, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Confused

There seems to be a slight contradiction between the following two opinions

"These [red interwiki links] are important to Wikipedia because it shows that there is a need for a page, and may inspire someone to create that very page."

"In the future though, please do not leave sections blank without content. Please add the sections after you have completed some content to go in them." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danbold (talk • contribs)

The editor had created an article like this, without content under some headers. The page just looked ugly with blank headers without anything under them. I changed my reply - thanks for pointing out the disambiguity. Sorry about the misunderstanding. -zappa 05:25, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Zackutahjazz

hey man your fucking gay for putting my shit up on speedy deletion man ill beat your fuckin ass bitch ill look you up nigga 14 yr old ass bitch tryin to look all smart man with your 186 iq and fluent in 4 languages man your fucking gay i bet you aint fluent in ebonics nigga ima clock u up side da rock (Zackutahjazz also attempted unsuccessfully to post some of my personal details here) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zackutahjazz (talk • contribs)

If you'd like, I can remove the 'personal details' edit from the edit history of this page - no need to say whether it's correct or not. To do this, I'll need to delete then undelete your user talk page - this page. Just say the word. --PeruvianLlama^(spit) 05:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

It's all cool - he didn't get it right, and I doubt he will. Both my IP's are dynamic. No worries. You can delete it if you want, but there's really no need. I would just prefer he get a warning or blocking from an administrator, but it's your choice! Thanks for the help, zappa 05:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, I went ahead and did it anyway - the onus should not be on the victim to prove that the address isn't theirs, so if nothing else, I deleted it on principle. Cheers! --PeruvianLlama^(spit) 05:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you a ton for all your help! Very much appreciated! -zappa 05:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy to help! :) --PeruvianLlama^(spit) 05:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

William J. Quinn

Hello, I wrote a stub about William J. Quinn, former police chief in San Francisco and you grabbed the photo I had as an external link and put it on the page. Now ithe photo, which was from the online archive of California has been tagged because there is no copyright info. I am not that good at Wikipedia, and i'm too lazy to fix it. Cal you help?Hank chapot 22:45, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I can help if you can give me copyright information on the picture. Until then, we must leave it tagged. -zappa 05:41, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Commentary

Thanks for experimenting with the page Words to avoid. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. Jkelly 04:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. I shouldnt've inserted my POV into the article. Totally my bad, zappa 04:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Editing

Hey man. I don't mean to be rude, but could you wait until I am finished editing a page before you start making changes to it? Thanks --Eastlaw 03:59, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry man - didn't know you were editing it. In the future though, please do not leave headers blank without content under them. Please add the sections after you have completed some content to go in them. -zappa 04:04, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Exoskeletor

Hi. the message that i get was from a automatic system or you have just send them? you have delete my page? im sorry i just think to add some informations about me (not much) and i was thinking to put a biography later but not today. is this legal?