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[[User:Varlaam|Varlaam]] ([[User talk:Varlaam|talk]]) 18:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
[[User:Varlaam|Varlaam]] ([[User talk:Varlaam|talk]]) 18:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
:First off, I've made a accidental duplicate edit on the page (the description edit for "The Last Circus"), so I'll apologize in advance for that. It was a genuine accident and not an attempt at starting a revision war, so I've undone the revision. It's back to the previous description.<br />
:First off, I've made a accidental duplicate edit on the page (the description edit for "The Last Circus"), so I'll apologize in advance for that. It was a genuine accident and not an attempt at starting a revision war, so I've undone the revision. It's back to the previous description.<br />
Anyways, about the film, I've seen it, and it was a strange one. "Horror-comedy-drama" really is the best way to explain it. It wasn't exactly a "horror" film per se -- I don't think it would belong in the "science fiction/fantasy/horror" you've set up, since there was a substantial amount of realistic plot outside of the realm of horror, but on the other hand, it was about two clowns running around on a murderous rampage, so labeling it "horror" wouldn't exactly be inaccurate either.<br />
:Anyways, about the film, I've seen it, and it was a strange one. "Horror-comedy-drama" really is the best way to explain it. It wasn't exactly a "horror" film per se -- I don't think it would belong in the "science fiction/fantasy/horror" you've set up, since there was a substantial amount of realistic plot outside of the realm of horror, but on the other hand, it was about two clowns running around on a murderous rampage, so labeling it "horror" wouldn't exactly be inaccurate either.<br />
As far as the Francoist element, it's borderline incidental. It existed in the first five minutes of the film, and then was completely nonexistent throughout the rest. The first five minutes of the film take place in 1937 during the Spanish Civil War and are about a clown who is "forcibly recruited into the militia", and that's the full extent of the film's relevance to the Spanish Civil War. The rest of the film takes place in 1973 and is about the aforementioned clown's son, and there is absolutely no reference to anything Spanish Civil War from that point forward. This is why I changed the description. I understand your undoing it, given that it wasn't exactly relevant, but that was my point, for the grand majority of the film, there was no relevance to the Spanish Civil War or even Francoist Spain in general. Suffice it to say that out of the 106 minutes in the film, 100 of them were completely unrelated to the Spanish Civil War in any way. Whether the six minutes that were related are enough to have it on the list or not, I will leave up to you, since you're the one putting the work in here. If it were up to me, I wouldn't have it anywhere on the page, but I don't object to keeping it in the "Spanish Civil War" section; I just really didn't want to see it invalidating the main list. Thanks for your time.<br />
:As far as the Francoist element, it's borderline incidental. It existed in the first five minutes of the film, and then was completely nonexistent throughout the rest. The first five minutes of the film take place in 1937 during the Spanish Civil War and are about a clown who is "forcibly recruited into the militia", and that's the full extent of the film's relevance to the Spanish Civil War. The rest of the film takes place in 1973 and is about the aforementioned clown's son, and there is absolutely no reference to anything Spanish Civil War from that point forward. This is why I changed the description. I understand your undoing it, given that it wasn't exactly relevant, but that was my point, for the grand majority of the film, there was no relevance to the Spanish Civil War or even Francoist Spain in general. Suffice it to say that out of the 106 minutes in the film, 100 of them were completely unrelated to the Spanish Civil War in any way. Whether the six minutes that were related are enough to have it on the list or not, I will leave up to you, since you're the one putting the work in here. If it were up to me, I wouldn't have it anywhere on the page, but I don't object to keeping it in the "Spanish Civil War" section; I just really didn't want to see it invalidating the main list. Thanks for your time.<br />
P.S. -- I'm going to alter the description again, and this time I'll manage to maintain some relevance. If you don't think it fits, feel free to undo it, but I do think it needs to be changed, since the current one only describes the prologue of the film, not the film as a whole. Thanks again.
:P.S. -- I'm going to alter the description again, and this time I'll manage to maintain some relevance. If you don't think it fits, feel free to undo it, but I do think it needs to be changed, since the current one only describes the prologue of the film, not the film as a whole. Thanks again.

Revision as of 09:03, 10 June 2012

Nice additions!!!

The Last Circus

Thank you for your input.
That film is problematic. I can't classify it because I haven't seen it.
1) Is it an actual Horror film, as in the Horror genre? Inclusion criteria are weaker for films of that type.
2) Is the Francoist element incidental? Namely, is it stated in a sentence and then never comes up again?
Somebody added the film to the page for a reason, I assume.
Varlaam (talk) 18:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First off, I've made a accidental duplicate edit on the page (the description edit for "The Last Circus"), so I'll apologize in advance for that. It was a genuine accident and not an attempt at starting a revision war, so I've undone the revision. It's back to the previous description.
Anyways, about the film, I've seen it, and it was a strange one. "Horror-comedy-drama" really is the best way to explain it. It wasn't exactly a "horror" film per se -- I don't think it would belong in the "science fiction/fantasy/horror" you've set up, since there was a substantial amount of realistic plot outside of the realm of horror, but on the other hand, it was about two clowns running around on a murderous rampage, so labeling it "horror" wouldn't exactly be inaccurate either.
As far as the Francoist element, it's borderline incidental. It existed in the first five minutes of the film, and then was completely nonexistent throughout the rest. The first five minutes of the film take place in 1937 during the Spanish Civil War and are about a clown who is "forcibly recruited into the militia", and that's the full extent of the film's relevance to the Spanish Civil War. The rest of the film takes place in 1973 and is about the aforementioned clown's son, and there is absolutely no reference to anything Spanish Civil War from that point forward. This is why I changed the description. I understand your undoing it, given that it wasn't exactly relevant, but that was my point, for the grand majority of the film, there was no relevance to the Spanish Civil War or even Francoist Spain in general. Suffice it to say that out of the 106 minutes in the film, 100 of them were completely unrelated to the Spanish Civil War in any way. Whether the six minutes that were related are enough to have it on the list or not, I will leave up to you, since you're the one putting the work in here. If it were up to me, I wouldn't have it anywhere on the page, but I don't object to keeping it in the "Spanish Civil War" section; I just really didn't want to see it invalidating the main list. Thanks for your time.
P.S. -- I'm going to alter the description again, and this time I'll manage to maintain some relevance. If you don't think it fits, feel free to undo it, but I do think it needs to be changed, since the current one only describes the prologue of the film, not the film as a whole. Thanks again.