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#REDIRECT [[User talk:Omar-toons/archive1]]
:<b>Hello,
:You are on my talk page, please don't forget to sign your message by typing <nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki>.
:Please, don't insert your comments in the middle of other users' ones, start a new section or add your message below other users' ones in an already existing section.
:Thanks!
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar]]</b>

==Your 3RR report==
Hi. There is a special board, [[WP:ANEW]], for 3RR and edit-warring reports, and I have moved your report there. It's now at [[WP:ANEW#User:Bokpasa reported by Omar-Toons (talk) (Result: )]]. Regards, [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD|talk]]) 19:35, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== [[History of Morocco]] ==

Hello,
Thank you for protecting the article [[History of Morocco]].
However, I have another request: Can you please lock it on the version that was online [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Morocco&oldid=357295965] before the editwar started [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Morocco&action=history]?
As you can see on the discussion page[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:History_of_Morocco], this is not happening for the first time, but always involving the same user. The maps on the article are original research and non-sourced and they contain false information [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Beiruk example]. The given information is also non-sourced and in contradiction with all the sources and references (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Morocco&action=history]).
I'm just asking you to lock the article on the ''less untrue'' version.
Regards,
[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons|talk]]) 14:54, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

: If a page is protected due to a content dispute, it is customary to protect the version that is currently on top, unless this version contains vandalism, copyright infringements or violations of the [[WP:BLP|BLP]] policy (See [[Wikipedia:Protect#Content_disputes]]). Since this version seems to contain neither i am reluctant to switch the top version. Remember, protection a certain version is not an endorsement of that version, but rather a necessity to stop the edit war.

: I advice starting a discussion on the talk page to form consensus on the topics you mentioned, including the usage of those maps in general. If i have a section showing clear consensus i can act upon that basis once a user enters an edit war that does not comply with that consensus. If a user refuses to comment on the talk page and continues his reverting behavior that is considered to be disruptive, which in itself is a reason for a (temporally) block. Try to work something out in the three days the article will be locked and remember - the protection lasts three days, consensus lasts a lot longer - So don't worry about the top version. If you cannot find consensus yourself i would point to [[WP:DR|DR]] for some assistance with it. Good luck! [[User:Excirial|<font color="191970">'''Excirial''']]</font><sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<font color="FF8C00">Contact me</font>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<font color="FF8C00">Contribs</font>]])</sup> 19:20, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== WikiProject Western Sahara ==

Hi Omar, even if your movement might be sensible in some way, you'd better discuss it before doing such an extreme movement. I understand that we have to be bold, but your edition may be seen as POV as the one you supposedly wanted to remove. Best regards --[[User:Ecemaml|Ecemaml]] ([[User talk:Ecemaml|talk]]) 22:07, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

: Fine, I don't personally have a strong opinion (well, in fact a wikiproject on Western Sahara seems fine to me... but tying it to the Polisario claim is obviously POV). Best regards --[[User:Ecemaml|Ecemaml]] ([[User talk:Ecemaml|talk]]) 22:33, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[Template:ESH]] ==

Please see [[WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle]] (BRD). You made a bold edit, it was reverted, and '''now''' is the time for '''discussion''', not edit-warring. Make your case on the talk page, or start an RfC if you want, but you do not have consensus right now for your edit. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 17:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== re: United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories ==

Well, on one hand, I just tried to use different wording to make the paragraph better. On the other hand, the very concept of military occupation is more related to a regular Army and a regular State. That's not the case (even if they wish) of the Polisario and the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. That was my only rationale. Best regards --[[User:Ecemaml|Ecemaml]] ([[User talk:Ecemaml|talk]]) 17:50, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Bokpasa at commons ==

Hi Omar, give me some time (even in Spanish, the speech by Bokpasa is awful). --[[User:Ecemaml|Ecemaml]] ([[User talk:Ecemaml|talk]]) 22:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

: Here you have it (more or less, as I told you, his Spanish is also awful):
{{bquote|Hi! I don't know what you mean about me uploading false maps with wrong information (with low historical quality). If you want to locate such cities, don't write "Morocco", as it didn't exist in that date, and include other cities. The article was written by you and in other page you deny [the existence of] the other Republic... If you keep on including false maps, I'll raise a report to the administrators. You don't like to suffer what you do to other people, do you? Thank you!}}
: Hope it helps. Best regards --[[User:Ecemaml|Ecemaml]] ([[User talk:Ecemaml|talk]]) 21:52, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. On the other hand, may I suggest you to open a deletion request for the two article on the saadite kingdoms? Bokpasa has been unable to provide any reliable source yet, so I think it's time to follow the procedure. See you --[[User:Ecemaml|Ecemaml]] ([[User talk:Ecemaml|talk]]) 10:19, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== Why didn't you add new figures instead of erasing mine? ==

So, if you know that the article on Berber people in Frecnch has "better" sources than Joshua Project; why don't you add the new figures shown in those sources, instead of just erasing the ones I added? It's easier to destroy than to construct, did you know? --[[User:Pablozeta|Pablozeta]] ([[User talk:Pablozeta|talk]]) 14:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Restored bibliography on [[Ahmed Belbachir Haskouri]] ==

That sounds like a good plan. I had already done the Bibliography formatting work, that's why I put it back after your work removing stuff. -[[User:Colfer2|Colfer2]] ([[User talk:Colfer2|talk]]) 14:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

we need to talk. any reason why u do not want ahmed belbachir here even if it is properly cited? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Shaskouri|Shaskouri]] ([[User talk:Shaskouri|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Shaskouri|contribs]]) 18:02, 7 July 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Talkback ==
{{talkback|Chipmunkdavis}}
Just tell me if you're watching my page! :) [[User:Chipmunkdavis|Chipmunkdavis]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 15:41, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
{{talkback|Chipmunkdavis}}

== (Berber people) Page ==



Omar-Toons, you have removed, other Berber names from the legend (Berber People Page) twice.

It is clear that all the Legend images are all Kabyles and Rifian ( The legend is not (neutral) or exact representation of all the Berbers of north-Africa

your are missing the Atlas Berbers of Morocco.


(Add some or any)

Ammouri Mbarek
Fatima Tabaamrant
Lhaj Belaid
Usman (Ammouri Mbarek, Said Bijaaden, Tarik El-maarufi, Belaid el-Akkaf, Lyazid Qorfi, Said Butrufin)
Ali Chouhad
Rkia Demsir
Omar Ait Ulahyan
Najat Aatabou
Fatima Tachtoukt
Yuba
Cherifa
Mohamed Rouicha
Saïda Titrit

If no one can Add a represenation of (Moroccan Atlas berbers, Middle-Atlas, High-Atlas and Little Atlas) then the Legend Image should be removed from page.

([[User:Amezwaru|Amezwaru]] ([[User talk:Amezwaru|talk]]) 23:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC))

:Hello,
:As you can easily see it, the infobox (and specially the pictures it contains) doesn't make a difference between Riffians, Kabyles Tuaregs and so on, the article is about Berber people (in general), and the pictures are the ones of well known Berbers, that's all.
:In addition, as you say it by yourself: It is a "<u>legend</u>" ({{fr}}:Légende): That means that it refers to the pictures above, explaining what (or whom) each picture refers to, then adding names without pictures is absurd.
:On the other hand, the people you are suggesting to add aren't notable. Maybe they are notable in a small scale, locally, but I don't think they have their place here. From your list, I only recognise two names (Rouicha and Ataabou), and they have (far) less notability than Khattabi or Idir, sorry to tell you that even if you are a fan of them.
:You can add your list to the page [[List of Berbers]].
:Removing the infobox because of your considerations could be considered as [[WP:vandalism|vandalism]].
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 23:34, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Omar,

Do you have a ref for your statement "These languages are considered as separate by the IRCAM (politically) and scholars (socio-linguistically)"? I added that to [[Atlas languages]], but it was deleted as unreferenced.

(PS. I'm not watching this page, so please reply there or on my talk page.) — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 08:56, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== Joshua Project ==
Hi, I was involved in an edit fight with a user [[User:Takabeg]] who uses the Joshua Project as a source on [[Turkish people]]. Can you help me by stating that Joshua Project is unreliable? [[User:Kavas|Kavas]] ([[User talk:Kavas|talk]]) 02:08, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:: Hi, again! [[User:Takabeg]] stopped using this website as a source. However, it is still helpful if you share your idea about this website. [[User:Kavas|Kavas]] ([[User talk:Kavas|talk]]) 02:40, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Almoravids and Almohads ==

Omar-Toons, I started a real work on the dynasties before and after the Almoravid dynasty [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Almoravid_dynasty&action=historysubmit&diff=395282474&oldid=395207183] and Almohad Caliphate [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Almohad_Caliphate&action=historysubmit&diff=395281510&oldid=395207165], why have you done this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Almoravid_dynasty&action=historysubmit&diff=395287569&oldid=395282474], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Almohad_Caliphate&action=historysubmit&diff=395287624&oldid=395281510] without any respect for the time I spent to organise the articles. I waited for an answer to my posts on the Talk Pages [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAlmohad_Caliphate&action=historysubmit&diff=395277941&oldid=390274013], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAlmoravid_dynasty&action=historysubmit&diff=395276268&oldid=391897415], but you did not discuss. Whould you finally decide to discuss or cotinue your edit-wars ?--[[User:موريسكو|Morisco]] ([[User talk:موريسكو|talk]]) 21:59, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:Hello,
:As you can easily understand, en.WP doesn't work the same way than fr.WP, then what was decided <u>there</u> isn't applicable <u>here</u>.
:A "real work"? Seriously, do you consider [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Almoravid_dynasty&action=historysubmit&diff=395282474&oldid=395207183 that] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Almohad_Caliphate&action=historysubmit&diff=395281510&oldid=395207165 that] a "real work"? You just removed a template and added an extensive succession list, which may be not precise, since it consider that the territory of each dynasty was divided at the time of its falling, but the reality is that each dynasty lost, at the end of its power, its territories the one after the other, and kept control over a little territory (which is located in Morocco), before getting power overtaken by its successor starting form the same territory (Morocco). The paragraphs "History" of each dynasty's page as well as the page "[[History of Morocco]]" explains everything.
:Which kind of "answer" are you expecting on the discussions? Seriously, did you wrote any question? Did you ask for a discussion? You just shared your point of view with us [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Almohad_Caliphate#Template]. You just said that ''you think that this template has no place on the article''. No questions, no arguments. And how do you think people can read/find a question that you wrote ''somewhere'' in the middle of the discussion page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Almoravid_dynasty]?
:The "History of Morocco" template is available on many WP's (including English and French ones), all include the Almohads and the Almoravids, but you don't agree with that, in my opinion, since it doesn't match your POV!
:Just to answer to a few questions:
:- Where were located the "centers of power" (capitals) of these dynasties? In Morocco.
:- From where did they start the conquest of other territories? From Morocco.
:- Which was the last territory that they controlled while they were collapsing? Morocco.
:- How came to power the dynasties who reigned after? By taking their places in Morocco (That also explains the succession tab on the infobox).
:- They were originated from somewhere else? Then the US are no longer the same than before since the president is partially originated from somewhere else? Come on! Most European monarchies are ruled by dynasties that aren't of "local descent". Is that a reason to consider that the Bourbon dynasty isn't Spanish? Bonaparte conquered the Dutch, is that a reason to consider it as a European leader, and not a French one? The answer is <u>NO</u>. By the same way, the Almohad and Almoravid dynasties are Moroccan, and I don't see any reason to consider them otherwise.
:I just gave you some examples. If you don't agree, try to convince the user who made these templates to remove the two dynasties, as well as the wikipedians who wrote these two articles, since including this template (along with the "History of Al-Andalus" one, but I don't understand why this one was removed) was accepted (then became a consensus between the users, since no one removed it or discussed its removing, and since the users who (tried to) discuss it weren't contributors) for more than 2 years.
:I don't really care about the nationalistic feelings. WP is a collaborative Encyclopedia, not a forum to explain nationalistic feelings and to modify articles because of them.
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 22:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
::Hi, I will move the discussion towards the respective pages of each article to allow other contributors to join our discussion.--[[User:موريسكو|Morisco]] ([[User talk:موريسكو|talk]]) 16:25, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

== Mutliple Spellings of Tariq on [[Tariq ibn Ziyad]] ==

The different spelling of the name 'Tariq' are important to note, as there are '''multiple English''' spellings. At the start there are two spellings already - 'Tariq' and 'Taric', so why remove the others?

eg. The name Tariq can also be written as Tarique, Tarik or Tarek.

Either I'll reinsert them, or you can. Up to you.

[[User:Tnaseem|tnaseem]] ([[User talk:Tnaseem|talk]]) 08:46, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== per [[WP:NPOV]] on [[Western Sahara]] : The territory's [[Coat of arms of Western Sahara|CoA]] and [[Flag of Western Sahara|Flag]] ==

Hello,

Since Western Sahara is a disputed territory, redirecting the two pages [[Flag of Western Sahara]] and [[Coat of arms of Western Sahara]] to the [[SADR]]'s ones is clearly PoV. I'm sorry to tell you that I will revert any PoV edition on these articles, for both Morocco and Polisario oriented PoV.

Neither the Moroccan flag and coat of arms are WS's ones, neither are Polisario/SADR's ones ; this is the basis of Neutrality on an article related to a disputed territory.

[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons|talk]]) 17:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

:Again, the dispute is irrelevant, only naming conventions and disambiguation are relevant. When people check Wikipedia for the 'flag of Western Sahara' or the 'coat of arms of Western Sahara', they simply will not ever be looking for the flag or coat of arms of Morocco, ever, ever, ever. They'll search for '[[flag of Morocco]]' and '[[coat of arms of Morocco]]' for those, and will find them. When searching Wikipedia for the 'flag of Western Sahara' and the 'coat of arms of Western Sahara', a person will always, always, always be looking for the emblems associated with the POLISARIO. People also do not look up information on flags hoping for an outline of what is clearly more appropriate and already covered in <span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed black;" title="those on Western Sahara, Morocco, the SADR, or even the legal status of Western Sahara, to name a small fraction">other articles</span>. There is no getting around it.

:You can of course continue to attempt to change the redirects, but I encourage you to be aware that the following will be against any such action:
:#Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|policy]] on [[Wikipedia:Article titles|article title]]s.
:#Wikipedia guidelines on [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation|disambiguation]].
:#<span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flag_of_Western_Sahara&limit=500&action=history Seven years]</span> of [[status quo]]. (And <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coat_of_arms_of_Western_Sahara&action=history 3.5 years]</span>, or 10.5 years collectively.)
:#Many <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flag_of_Western_Sahara&limit=500&action=history others having tried and failed]</span>.
:#That [[User:Omar-Toons|you are Moroccan]], and are indisputably biased from birth.
:The last thing this wiki needs is yet another "article" by a Moroccan outlining who controls what in Western Sahara; we already have the articles [[Western Sahara]], [[Morocco]], [[Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic]], [[Legal status of Western Sahara]], and likely a majority of articles created by anyone associated with [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Morocco]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Western Sahara]] to cover that particular issue. Articles about flags can remain about flags.
:¦ [[User:Reisio|Reisio]] ([[User talk:Reisio|talk]]) 22:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

== Flags and coats ==

Could the two of you please discuss this on one of the "public" talkpages rather than making this some spread-out private discussion? thanks. [[User:Seb az86556|Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[User_talk:Seb_az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 21:29, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

== RfC: X of Western Sahara ==

RfC on that NPOVN thing is [[Talk:Flag_of_Western_Sahara#RfC:_X_of_Western_Sahara|here]]. '''<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Night w|<font color="black">Night</font><font color="gray">w</font>]]</span>''' 03:21, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

== User:HCPUNXKID ==

Just my opinion but you should report this on the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring|admin noticeboard]], I see that editors have given him/her many chances now and there was even discussion on another editor's talk page with HCPUNXKID that if this continues he/she may be blocked. I am really an outside editor on this so I do not want to report this myself. - [[User:Knowledgekid87|Knowledgekid87]] ([[User talk:Knowledgekid87|talk]]) 21:16, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
**Reply: If the user reverts again I will go ahead with it, I just want this disruptive edit warring to stop over this as it has been days now. - [[User:Knowledgekid87|Knowledgekid87]] ([[User talk:Knowledgekid87|talk]]) 22:08, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
There is also a discussion going in at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] under "Deletion of POV and Unbalanced tags without discussion". You can maybe explain the situation there too. [[User:TL565|TL565]] ([[User talk:TL565|talk]]) 20:14, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

On the issue of the article [[2010–2011 Sahrawi protests]], you should report him at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring]] as he clearly violated the 3RR. [[User:TL565|TL565]] ([[User talk:TL565|talk]]) 18:59, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

== MENA protests Western Sahara/Morocco flagicon ==

Hi, you replied to me on [[Talk:2010-2011 Middle East and North Africa protests]], about why Mohamed Lamine Ould Salek Ould Said Mahmoudi (the only victim of self immolation to not have a flag as listed on the page). I still have a question: if I add the Sahrawi flag alone to his section on the page (as he is from [[Smara]] in [[Western Sahara]]), will that be deleted too? Thanks, and please reply on my talk page. [[User:MAINEiac4434|MAINEiac4434]] ([[User talk:MAINEiac4434|talk]]) 22:10, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
:Since it is the flag of the [[SADR]], which is one of two claimants of the territory, yes it will be deleted because it will be considered as [[WP:POV|PoV]]. Same if you add the flag of Morocco.
:There are two solutions that can be considered as [[WP:NPOV|NPoV]]: Letting the line without flag or adding the "hybrid" flag.
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 23:25, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
::I added a 20px hybrid flag, only because too me the line doesn't look right without a flag. Thanks buddy. [[User:MAINEiac4434|MAINEiac4434]] ([[User talk:MAINEiac4434|talk]]) 00:15, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

== User:HCPUNXKID revisited ==

Hello, this is to inform you that there is another discussion about this user at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] regarding the [[2010–2011 Sahrawi protests]] in which you were involved with. Thank you. [[User:TL565|TL565]] ([[User talk:TL565|talk]]) 18:41, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

== Action of Dececmber 1669 ==

Would you mind explaining your attempt to add a different flag in? Nothing in any source I can find indicates that the striped one is only an ensign, and replacing it with the Ottoman flag implies that Algiers used that flag, which does not currently appear to be supported by sources [[User:Roscelese|Roscelese]] ([[User talk:Roscelese|talk]] &sdot; [[Special:Contributions/Roscelese|contribs]]) 18:53, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
:Hello,
:On these articles I didn't make a major change, I just reverted the contributions of an user who changed the information on some articles to mark that Algeria was a kingdom, while the reality is that it was an Ottoman Vilayet from 1515 to 1830, then made some corrections on articles containing this information which is OR (imho).
:The [http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/Flags/ly_trip.html only source] cited on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dz.flag.gif "Catalan type" flag page on commons] relates it as the flag of the Karamanlis, and if we see the [http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/Flags/dz_regal.html Regency of Algier's page on the same website] we cfind: {{quote|''In any case, except for the very elaborate personal standards, the flag in use in the country was the Ottoman flag. This flag waved over Algiers and along the coast and in the Turkish garrisons at Bejaia, Bordj Leahou, Constantine, Medea, Mliana, Mazouna, Mascara, and Tlemcen''}}
:Btw, the use of this "Catalan style" flag isn't supported by reliable sources as to have been used as a national flag.
:note: The same user that I reverted was banned from Fr.Wiki for vandalism, PoV editing and edit warring :)
:Thanks btw. :)
:Regards.
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 20:35, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
::It was actually I who added that flag when I expanded the article back in January, not an IP replacing the Ottoman flag with the striped flag. Although now I see that an IP has changed it back, while a separate IP has replaced it again with the Ottoman flag. (Would the second IP happen to be you, logged out?) There are really several points I'm trying to make here: one, that we don't even know if Ottoman Algiers used this flag (do we have a better source than FOTW? It's just someone's personal website - besides which, it gives a starting date later than the battle in question), while we do know that they used the striped one (or as I should say ''a'' striped one, since the picture is in black and white) because it's in pictures of the battle; and two, that while we might wikilink [[Regency of Algiers]], it's probably inappropriate to put "Ottoman Empire" in the infobox because all of the sources refer to the opposing force as Algerine. (Unless you interpret "Turks" in the primary source as actually meaning "Turks" rather than a synonym for "Muslims.") I think that until we have confirmation from a reliable source that another flag was used, we should use the flag that appears in contemporary images of the battle, and our description of the opponent should reflect that used by the sources.
::(Gosh, the edit war ''would'' have to break out right as it's up for GA, wouldn't it?)
::--[[User:Roscelese|Roscelese]] ([[User talk:Roscelese|talk]] &sdot; [[Special:Contributions/Roscelese|contribs]]) 05:37, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that, the IP I'm talking about is making POV/OR edits on all articles related to Ottoman Algeria by marking that Algeria was an independent kingdom [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/41.200.7.199], while it was ''de jure'' part of the Ottoman empire and ''de facto'' controlled by the Turks (Ottomans) of the Odjak, that's why I added "Ottoman empire" to the infobox ; maybe it is more appropriate to put it between brackets?
:About the flag, event the description os the Picture on Commons isn't precise. Btw, there are no sources that cite this flag as the one of the Regency, it can't be included based on a drawing, that can be considered as OR.
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 11:53, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
::It would also be OR to say that that was the flag used by Algiers when absolutely nothing indicates that this was so. Again, even if the source you had given were authoritative, rather than the personal website of a non-expert, it gives 1671 as the starting date for the use of the flag, while the battle in question took place in 1669. Rather than edit warring, please take your concerns to a noticeboard or something ([[WP:NORN]]? [[WP:NPOVN]] if you really think it's a POV issue?). In the meantime, I am removing the flag, and also wikilinking "Regency of Algiers" but removing "Ottoman Empire" from the infobox, because that reflects the descriptions in sources. [[User:Roscelese|Roscelese]] ([[User talk:Roscelese|talk]] &sdot; [[Special:Contributions/Roscelese|contribs]]) 15:17, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I've posted at [[WP:NPOVN#Flag of Algiers in 1669]]. [[User:Roscelese|Roscelese]] ([[User talk:Roscelese|talk]] &sdot; [[Special:Contributions/Roscelese|contribs]]) 15:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

== You? ==

Is [[User:Omar-toons]] you? Their userpage redirects to yours. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|Chipmunkdavis]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 11:51, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

:I'd suggest leaving a note on your userpage then that it is a alternative account, before someone suspicious comes along! [[User:Chipmunkdavis|Chipmunkdavis]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 13:22, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

== Re:Sock puppetry case / vandalism on Ottoman/Algiers related articles ==

{{Tb|Fastily|Sock puppetry case / vandalism on Ottoman/Algiers related articles}} -'''[[User:Fastily|<span style='font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color:#4B0082'><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style = 'color:#4B0082'>(TALK)</span>]]</small></sup> 19:48, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

== Looks like this has flared up again ==

[[Flag of Western Sahara]]. '''<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Night w|<font color="black">Night</font><font color="gray">w</font>]]</span>''' 05:31, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

== [[Berber revolt]] ==

hi

as you asked discussion, please take a look at this [[Talk:Berber Revolt|TP]] <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dzlinker|contribs]]) 13:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== RE: KAMTCHO ==

Hi. Might want to revert some of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=500&tagFilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=KAMTCHO&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1 these] =/ '''[[User:Nikthestoned|<font color="MidnightBlue">Nik</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Nikthestoned|<font color="CornflowerBlue">''the''</font>]][[User talk:Nikthestoned|<font color="ForestGreen">stoned</font>]]''' 16:25, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

== Your edits to the article for Eugénie Buffet ==

Hello,

I noticed you made some changes to the article for [[Eugénie Buffet]] so as to clarify that she was born in French Algeria versus Algeria. Admittedly I know little of the history of Algeria and I had based the wording of Buffet's place of birth using the wording of the sources cited in the article's References section, which could very well have been inaccurate. I do however have a question:

I visited the current wiki article for [[French Algeria]] and it states:'' "French Algeria...lasted from 1830 to 1962, under a variety of governmental systems."'' Given that Eugénie Buffet was born in Tlemcen in 1866, would that not mean the country of her birth would have been Algeria, since the country was no longer under French colonial rule at the time?

I am also curious as to why we would need to change the phrase "Eugénie Buffet was an Algerian-born French singer" to simply "Eugénie Buffet was a French singer". She was indeed born in Algeria (or French Algeria, if you will), and perhaps I am misunderstanding the reason for the change in wording, but would it be incorrect to refer to someone born in Algeria—regardless of their race, ethnicity or family history—as "Algerian", or in the least "Algerian-born"?

Your comments on these matters would be greatly appreciated. I look forward to any clarification that you could provide.

Thanks [[User:Marchije|Marchije]]•<sup>[[User talk:Marchije|speak]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Marchije|peek]]</sub> 22:39, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
:Hello,
:''French Algeria (...) lasted from 1830 to 1962 (...) Eugénie Buffet was born in Tlemcen in 1866'' -> 1830 < 1866 < 1962... simple notions of mathematics...
:On the other hand, Algeria was part of France, not a colony nor a protectorate, people born in Algeria between 1830 and 1962 are considered as born in France, not in Algeria (even, people born in pre-1962 Algeria, they still have their 9A/9B/9C... French dept codes on their ID/CSS), since "Algeria" had no internationally recognized status at this time but was recognized as a part of the French territory.
:This issue was discussed on many articles before, and it was used to put "French Algeria" instead of "Algeria".
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 04:24, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
::ROTFL! How embarrassing! For some reason I was thinking it was from 1830 to '''18'''62!!! Then forget everything I just said. I even read the article and it never donned on me that she was born in the 19th c and Algeria ended in the 20th. Man, I must have been tired when I read that! 8-P [[User:Marchije|Marchije]]•<sup>[[User talk:Marchije|speak]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Marchije|peek]]</sub> 22:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

== [[maysara al-matghiri]] ==

hi!
al haqir is an arabic word.
no sources are necessary to prove that arabs where the ones who called the guy ignoble (حقير).
i'm reintroducing this little precision <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dzlinker|contribs]]) 15:36, 2 July 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== you want a talk about an image on this article [[Augustine of Hippo]] ==

ok here it is, what's your problem? --[[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) 17:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

== [[Fossatum Africae]] ==

#this article concerns the ancient [[roman province of africa]], it's <u>not about all the fortifications in all north africa during roman rule (not the same as the linked french article)</u>
#useless resources, they don't give any info about morocco fortifications durring the same period (if they do and i haven't found them, insert a citation into the reference block) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dzlinker|contribs]]) 12:58, 8 July 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hello,
:I suggest you to read the entire PDF file instead of removing content "because you didn't read the right paragraph". I added a link to the PDF file, which, you said, is a "useless/false" one (I didn't know that a document issued by the German gov. wasn't a reliable source!), and it cites explicitely the presence of part of the ''Fossatum Africae'' in Morocco (1st source, p.7) and also a second one citing Tunisia ; these documents are sources to the information cited in the article, and it was never used to "quote the entire paragraph" to justify an information.
:Thanks to avoid edt-warring by PoV-motivated edits and [[WP:OWN]].
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 15:36, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
::i don't really got time, so i use the search engine of my pdf reader. and <small>''maroc''</small> gives no results.
::the first point is more important this article doesn't concerne all north african fortifications as the french one (just [[Africa (Roman province)]]).
::your undiscussed edits will be undone soon.
::[[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 16:06, 8 July 2011 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::Probably because the text is in English and that "Maroc" is a French word, not?
:::Probably because the articles cites <u>explicitly</u> that the ''Fossatum Africa'' stretches from Morocco to Tunisia, and that you just didn't read it, not?
:::Please read [[WP:OWN]] and [[WP:EW]], your edits are [[WP:OR]] and are opposed to the information cited by reliable sources.
:::[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 00:08, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
::::No
::::maroc and marocco don't give any thing, try to give a good source, or your edits ll we undone
::::[[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 13:10, 9 July 2011 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::::Maybe because in English it is called "Morocco", not "Marocco"... not?
:::::[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 13:54, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
::::::no even moroco and morocco and ..
::::::[[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 22:08, 9 July 2011 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::::::Since you don't seem to have the intention to participate through a collaborative way, I added the complete quote. This is very bad since it proves that some users aren't able to find an information and that they are waiting for others to find it for them. Now it is well cited, I hope that you will understand that your accusations of "adding fake information" and of sources gambling will not be seen again.
:::::::[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 14:05, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
I hope that my update to this article has removed any need for this argument to continue. The reference to Trosset (1980) was very useful, thank you. But I don't find any need to cite the German PDF because it is very general and concerns the whole Roman "limes", it would be better in an article about the "limes". It is the "limes" that stretches from Morocco to Tunisia (and beyond) not any fossatum, which in any case does not necessarily follow the "limes".
[[User:MisterCDE|MisterCDE]] ([[User talk:MisterCDE|talk]]) 05:22, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

== moroco =? maghrib ==

al maghrīb =/= morroco which did not exist at the time.

the period the book was written morocco was called ''al maghrib al aqsa'' (the far maghreb) al maghrib referred to the all north west africa

[[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) 13:56, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
:I suppose that you got some sources to prove that? :)
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 14:02, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

== A beer for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Export hell seidel steiner.png|70px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | for this edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jean_Sassi&action=historysubmit&diff=438912662&oldid=437928798 here] <br/> [[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) 15:03, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
|}

== french every thing ==

french .. suggest it is always under french rule like [[French Polynesia]], [[French Guiana]], [[French Caribbean]]..

for the maghreb it is not the case. so stop defending your false useless point of view

those articles (especially biographic ones) are not about the history of the country where the guy is born

if you persist on your useless facts, put instead of french.. /then under french colonisation/

if you say algeria was part of france, it's the french point of view not the algerian

same thing for maroco and tunisia

[[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) 15:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

: The last time i request a talk. Being the only one who want french Algeria, you should convince me, or at least bring an acceptable consensus.
: [[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) 21:23, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

== An other beer for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Export hell seidel steiner.png|70px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | for those edits: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mohamed_Abdelaziz&action=history here]<br/> [[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) 20:38, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
|}

== Warning ==

From an examination of your contribution history[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&contribs=user&target=Omar-Toons&namespace=0] it is clear that you are enaged in a numbre of [[WP:EDITWAR|edit-wars]] with at least 2 accounts within the last 3 weeks. Stop [[WP:UNDO|using the revert/undo function]] on the site to restore your preferred version of an article. Further [[WP:EDITWAR|revert-warring]] will result in this acount being [[WP:BLOCK|blocked]]. <br>Please use the relevant article talk pages to [[WP:AVOIDEDITWAR|avoid edit-wars]] and build [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]]. Where disruptive edits are made DO NOT edit-war, rather ask for assitance at the relevant noticeboard, [[WP:NPOVN]], [[WP:RSN]], [[WP:COIN]]--[[User:Cailil|<font color="#999999" size="2">'''Cailil'''</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Cailil|<font color="#999999">'''talk'''</font>]]</sup> 14:00, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Barnstar of Diligence Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Barnstar of Diligence'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Hello,
You're doing a good job at keeping a watch over a wide range of Morocco related articles!
Regards [[User:Tachfin|Tachfin]] ([[User talk:Tachfin|talk]]) 13:26, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
|}

== More sockage reverting your edits? ==

To make sure I'm seeing what I think I see, is {{userlinks|Hamadi12}} another sock of the user you reported? I think I hear quacking, but I'd like a little confirmation (even if not independent) before I block that account. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 15:28, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

:Wait, never mind. I think [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/FAIZGUEVARRA&diff=443027876&oldid=443027782 that] confirmed it better than me asking could. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 15:30, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
==Talkback==
{{talkback|Drmies|Need your help: Algeria related articles (again)|ts=04:32, 8 August 2011 (UTC)}}
Sorry I'm late, Omar--spent a week somewhere else, without internet. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 04:32, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
==Talkback==
{{talkback|Ioeth|Answer on EW noticeboard|ts=17:07, 8 August 2011 (UTC)}}
[[User:Ioeth|Ioeth]] <small>([[User_talk:Ioeth|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Ioeth|contribs]] [[WP:TW|twinkle]] [[WP:FRIEND|friendly]])</small> 17:07, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

== Template:Western Sahara lists of positions ==

Hello, <br />
[[Template:Western Sahara lists of positions]] is being considered for deletion. Your input would be appreciated at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion#Template:Western_Sahara_lists_of_positions this template entry] in the templates for discussions page.<br />
Best regards [[User:Tachfin|Tachfin]] ([[User talk:Tachfin|talk]]) 17:17, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

== History ==
Are you kidding me?

Indeed forget to write that Morocco invaded Moon and longtime there is a Moroccan colony.
[[User:Luciusmaximus|Luciusmaximus]] ([[User talk:Luciusmaximus|talk]]) 23:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
*Are you write again when aliens conquest Morocco?[[User:Luciusmaximus|Luciusmaximus]] ([[User talk:Luciusmaximus|talk]]) 23:22, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
::Can you write sth using an "understandable" English, please?
::[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 02:23, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

== cercando di capire non è difficile ==

i've seen the discussion on the "Algerian Almohads" it's an empty circle.
as you can see in this template : <NOWIKI>{{history of Algeria}}</NOWIKI> <br/>
the menu contains the Almohads. so the template must be on the page. other wise the template is a dead end useless thing.
capito - [[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) 17:20, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
:Hello,
:Seriously, you can even add Zimbabwe on it and impose it on the page [[History of Zimbabwe]], I don't care, but please <u>avoid this kind of language</u>!
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 17:46, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

== XFD:Template:Political parties of Western Sahara ==

Hi,<br />
As you contributed to Morocco and Western Sahara related articles, I think you might be interested in [[Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion#Template:Political_parties_in_the_Sahrawi_Arab_Democratic_Republic|this discussion]]. Your input would be appreciated.<br />

Regards --[[User:Tachfin|Tachfin]] ([[User talk:Tachfin|talk]]) 14:23, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

== recall ==

plz proceed with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive719#People_born_in_French_Algeria_:_Nationalistic_edits_by_Dzlinker this] talk. this is a reminder, may be you didn't get the message on your wl
::[[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) 17:43, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

== New article: Tafia of Ceuta ==

Hello,

I'm contacting to request your help: Recently Bokpasa created an article ([[Taifa of Ceuta]]), it was speedily deleted but then somebody else came, found a reference to it in google books and recreated the article. Since I'm not an expert on Andalusian history, I wanted to ask you if a Taifa in Ceuta really existed? I've read in "History of Ibn Khaldun" that Ceuta, Tangiers, Malaga and Algeciras belonged to the same Taifa which was governed by the [[Hammudid dynasty]].

Thank you for your help and have a nice day! [[User:Tachfin|Tachfin]] ([[User talk:Tachfin|talk]]) 14:06, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

== [[Template talk:Berber languages]]==

Your last suggestion was: "Ok, then let's take Kossman's classification (2002) instead of reverting, arbitrary, everything!" I restored the original, closely based on Kossmann's (1999) classification, after giving you days to respond to my answer, and you decided to replace it (with no comment except a bare claim that this was "unscientific") with a classification that you previously attributed to an article from 1953 by W. Cline - who wasn't even a linguist, but an anthropologist! This is unhelpful to say the least. - [[User:Lameen Souag|Lameen Souag]] ([[User talk:Lameen Souag|talk]]) 08:28, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

== Almoravid Dynasty ==
Hello Omar - Please take a look at [[Talk:Almoravid dynasty#NPOV : Arab-Berber self glorification]], a user is mass tagging the article for some ethnic reasons. You're opinion would be appreciated. Thank you. [[User:Tachfin|Tachfin]] ([[User talk:Tachfin|talk]]) 05:16, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Flag of Western Sahara ==
Please keep an eye on {{diff|Flag of Western Sahara|462515707|462507156|this}}. '''<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Night w|<font color="black">Night</font><font color="gray">w</font>]]</span>''' 04:42, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
:There's more people at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Morocco/Members]], Night w, don't miss out. ¦ [[User:Reisio|Reisio]] ([[User talk:Reisio|talk]]) 06:51, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks for that, but this is the editor whose contribution you reverted on that page. '''<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Night w|<font color="black">Night</font><font color="gray">w</font>]]</span>''' 07:01, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
:Oh? Are you saying <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flag_of_Western_Sahara&action=historysubmit&diff=436664701&oldid=416439408 41.141.193.180]</span> is Omar-Toons? That would be interesting. ¦ [[User:Reisio|Reisio]] ([[User talk:Reisio|talk]]) 07:08, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

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== University definition section ==

Hi,

You [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University&action=historysubmit&diff=464224176&oldid=462625725 recently added] a neutrality template to the Definition section of the article University. It would help things proceed if you discussed your concerns on the [[Talk:University#Neutrality of Definition Section disputed|talk page]]. --[[User:SteveMcCluskey|SteveMcCluskey]] ([[User talk:SteveMcCluskey|talk]]) 19:48, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

== Comments requested at Flag of Western Sahara ==
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==This source==
Have you looked at this source[http://books.google.ca/books?id=HnQNVPbnrDgC&pg=PA96&dq=university+madrasa&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uH8DT6H9Bqrx0gHJn5H_Cw&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=university%20madrasa&f=false]?'''[[User:Vice regent|VR]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Vice regent|'''<font color="Black">talk</font>''']]</sub> 22:33, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

== Did you know...==

* ... that [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Omar-Toons|you are a sockpuppet]]? [[Special:Contributions/80.74.137.161|80.74.137.161]] ([[User talk:80.74.137.161|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 16:33, 7 January 2012 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== "Rabat" in 1413 chart ==

Hi Omar-Toons.

I am currently writing up a page on 14th/15th C. Majorcan cartographer Mecia de Villadestes. He drafted a 1413 portolan chart essentially summarizing the accumulated European knowledge of Africa before the age of exploration. It is very similar to the [[Catalan Atlas]] of 1375, but more detailed, with lots of the stations of the trans-Saharan trade routes - basically his interpetations from Arab sources (al-Bakri, al-Idrisi, etc.) I have been deciphering all his towns and labels, and writing up a key (you can see a partial prelude at the [[Senegal River]] page).

There is a couple of questions I have on Moroccan geography which I wonder if I can press you for help on, if you have time? There is a high-resolution copy of the 1413 Viladestes chart at wiki-commons. [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mecia_de_Viladestes._Carte_marine_de_l%27oc%C3%A9an_Atlantique_Nord-Est,_de_la_mer_M%C3%A9diterran%C3%A9e,_de_la_mer_Noire,_de_la_mer_Rouge._1413.jpg right here]

My main question is essentially this: if you look at Morocco, you'll notice he's got a depiction of what seems like the Sebou River (it enters ''north'' of Sale, so can't be the Bou Regreg). It forks into two branches, just like the real Sebou. The southern branch passes through the middle of Fez (depicted as "twin cities", naturally). But the northern branch of the Sebou goes on to form an "island" at the end, and in the middle of the island is a citadel with the label "Rabat". Do you have any hunch what this citadel of "Rabat" might be? (obviously not modern Rabat; "Anafe" is denoted on the coast much below that).

(It is common for Viladestes to simply assume and draw a circular "river island" when there is a location that's nearly surrounded on all sides by rivers, cf. Sijilmassa, below the Atlas range, is depicted as an island.)

My first temptation was to assume this "Rabat" was al-Qasr el-Kebir, simply because of the name (fortress/castle). But the upper branch is clearly not the Loukkos (look closely, he has Larache/al-Araish denoted on the coast as "laraix", with no entry). Moreover, this "Rabat" looks very much inland.

Do you know of any 14th/15th C. fortress, on the Sebou's northern tributary (what's it called by the way?) which might fit the bill for this "Rabat"? Since you seem to be the kind of fellow who pores over archaic Moroccan maps, I thought I'd give you a try. [[User:Walrasiad|Walrasiad]] ([[User talk:Walrasiad|talk]]) 08:36, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:: Thanks! Taza seems right. It was an early Marinid stronghold too, so it makes sense to highlight it. [[User:Walrasiad|Walrasiad]] ([[User talk:Walrasiad|talk]]) 19:36, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

== Mediation Cabal ==

Hi there. I have offered to mediate a MedCab case you are involved in [[Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/10 January 2012/List of oldest universities in continuous operation|here]]. If all involved parties accept this offer, I hope to be able to bring a reconciliation on the issue. I would appreciate it if you could read the statement I posted on the page and let me know if you accept my offer of mediation. Thanks. '''''<span style="color:red">Whenaxis</span>''''' <small>[[User talk:Whenaxis|about]] &#124; [[User talk:Whenaxis|talk]]</small> 02:11, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

:Sorry to bother you again. If you are still interested in the case, it's still open [[Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/10 January 2012/List of oldest universities in continuous operation|here]]. So, when you are available feel free to take a look and leave a message. If not, please notify me on my [[User talk:Whenaxis|talk page]] of your absteinance from the case. Thanks, '''''<span style="color:red">Whenaxis</span>''''' <small>[[User talk:Whenaxis|about]] &#124; [[User talk:Whenaxis|talk]]</small> 21:23, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

==Another article==
Regarding [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_the_oldest_universities_in_continuous_operation_in_the_Muslim_world&diff=prev&oldid=476044563 this edit] of yours, I'm thinking of just creating another article with this material ("Medieval Islamic institutions of higher learning"). Gun Powder Ma should, in theory, not try to blank that article. This action also has the support of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jonathan_A_Jones&diff=475791107&oldid=475790424 Jonathan A Jones].'''[[User:Vice regent|VR]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Vice regent|'''<font color="Black">talk</font>''']]</sub> 05:10, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

== Morocco's map in Football Articls ==

Hi, I'm user in Wikipedia, I've noticed that an Algerian ill-intentionned user [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pacific_kiribati] is trying to put morocco's map without western sahara in spite of the fact that FIFA recognize the territory as part of Morocco [http://fr.fifa.com/associations/association=mar/index.html], I've noticed in your contributions that you've a lot of knowledge about the subject, si I hope you accept my invitation to participate in a debate about the matter here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2012_Africa_Cup_of_Nations#The_map_for_Morocco]
Thanks in advance --[[Special:Contributions/194.204.217.78|194.204.217.78]] ([[User talk:194.204.217.78|talk]]) 09:47, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

== Edit warring ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive166#User:Dzlinker_reported_by_User:Omar-Toons_.28Result:_Both_48h.29] You were blocked recently for edit warring on [[Template:History of Morocco]] and I see you are again engaged in an edit war. Please stop and use the talk page. [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 17:13, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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== Abdelkader ==

{{Talkback|Talk:Abdelkader El Djezairi|verifiability of a ressources|ts=11:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)}}

== ANI ==

'''Inappropriate''' As I pointed out [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=500153192 here], you've used ANI in an inappropriate manner. I would like you to revisit your post there and explain why it is you think that you should post at ANI rather than the respective articles' talk pages or my user talk. I've responded to all of your allegations and they're largely spurious, so I'm disappointed to see you resorting to this. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:25, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

== Please stop ==

'''Western Sahara''' It's obvious that several users (sean.hoyland, dzlinker, chipmunkdavis, and myself) find your reverts unacceptable, especially since you're intransigent about posting to talk. Adding in your spurious ANI post and it's getting harder to assume good faith and collaboration on your part. Simply put, your reverts will themselves be reverted (by myself or someone else), so it's pointless to keep on doing it and it's only going to make it harder for us to work together to make good content. If you don't post to talk somewhere to explain yourself and seek consensus, not only are you wasting your time reverting, but you're fostering ill will amongst other editors who could be collaborators with you. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:06, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


== Algerians ==

Please take a look at [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2075.html#ag the world factbook] - [[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) 10:03, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

==Notice of Dispute resolution discussion==
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard]] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "[[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Berber people|Berber people]]". Thank you.<!--Template:DRN-notice--> --[[User:Dzlinker|Dzlinker]] ([[User talk:Dzlinker|talk]]) 11:29, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

==Unblock==

{{unblock reviewed | 1=I was surprised by the fact that I was blocked after the user [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] reported me to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&oldid=504072807#User:Omar-Toons_reported_by_User:Gun_Powder_Ma_.28Result:_72h.29 3RR noticeboard]. Why was I surprised? Because the diffs he reported are not fairly used, since I made a series of edits and I didn't "delete" his edits, but I just putted the paragraph on the right section [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morocco&diff=503808980&oldid=503804879] (I deleted the quotes and only let the reference, as it is the common use on WP). Unfortunately, this was dishonestly reported by [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]], and, as I see, the admin who blocked me didn't verify the whole thing, especially the entire history of the article [[Morocco]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morocco&action=history] that clearly shows that the first diff concerns the revert of an unilateral editing about a highly polemic content (related to [[Western Sahara]]) that I didn't undo after a second revert by [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]], and that the main problematic user is the one who reported me, as that he is still engaged in an edit-war with other users about the same problem (editorial/POV) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morocco&diff=503996500&oldid=503950454][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morocco&diff=504007923&oldid=503996500][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morocco&diff=504008709&oldid=504007923][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morocco&diff=504010480&oldid=504008709] <small>(On the 3rr report he also includes the revert of an IP edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morocco&diff=503710942&oldid=503704043] which is absolutely irrelevant in this case and isn't related by any way to the other edits)</small>. By the way, on my two previous blockings I recognized my fault, but this time I think that it wasn't mine. If the explanations that I gave above are satisfactory, then my blocking isn't justified, but if they are not, [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] should also be blocked since he is the main edit-warrior on this article, not me, and that the fact that he 'reported me first' doesn't make me the one to blame. Thanks in advance,<br/>--[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 07:19, 25 July 2012 (UTC) | decline=The very fact that you can use the expression "doesn't make me the one to blame" indicates that you have not grasped what "edit warring" means. Making several reversions in an article in a short time is edit warring. Whether anyone else has also been edit warring is irrelevant. You edit warred, which justifies the block. Your unblock request appears to be an attempt to make two points: (1) your edits were justified, and (2) someone else did bad things. Neither of those has the remotest relevance to a block for edit warring. Wikipedia's policy on edit warring is, essentially, "don't edit war", not "don't edit war unless you think you are right", or "don't edit war unless someone else is edit warring too". [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 11:35, 25 July 2012 (UTC)}}

==Block extended==
For socking using [[User:197.247.73.34]]. [[User:Black Kite|Black Kite]] ([[User talk:Black Kite|talk]]) 19:33, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
:Huh? Did you even compare this IP with the ones I use? Made a RCU? Btw, http://www.iplocation.net/index.php locates the IP in Casablanca (I wasn't there for weeks and I live in Rabat, Morocco, btw) and I wasn't on WP for hours... obviously...
:I'm giving up!
:[[User:Omar-Toons|Omar-Toons]] ([[User talk:Omar-Toons#top|talk]]) 20:28, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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