Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pilot of invisible F-117-a(song)

Pilot of invisible F-117-a(song)

The song is not notable enough to have its own article. Plus the translation is atrocious, and there is no information about copyright issues.

Why would I need copyrights?I just wrote down the words of the song,like in this case Keep Ya Head Up!! If you allowed that song,why wouldn`t you allow thi song,that is maybe the most famous Satrirical war song in 90sDzoni 07:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Non-notable song by a non-notable band. — TheKMan^talk 22:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

  Comment: The NATO bombings of Serbia was definitely something notable, however I have not seen any evidence so far that the song itself is noteworthy. I will gladly change to a "keep" if proper sources are provided that demonstrate the popularity of this song. — TheKMan^talk 06:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, the band seems to fail WP:MUSIC, thus song is non notable. -- ReyBrujo 06:10, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
• STRONG KEEPThis is very famous song in Balkans,you cant find a single Serbian,Croatian,Bosnian or Macedonian that have not heard it.Please dont delete itDzoni 07:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, but add more context and explain how important and ironic it is, given the nature of the NATO bombing of Serbia in 1999. It is an example of the famous "serbian spite" that Serbs are so proud of. Other examples could be brought in. Profnjm 00:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep --serbiana - talk 22:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - this was one of the most popular songs during the bombings, along with others (Ja sam ja for example). In fact, we should make an article about the Indeksovici. And remember, if something isn't significant to the US, it doesn't mean it shouldn't belong here. Хајдук Еру (Talk || Contributions) 02:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

If it was so popular, how come the entry on Serbian wikipedia about this band does not mention it? Check sr:Индексовци. What is the title of this song in Serbian, anyway? That would be a useful piece of information to include in the article, don't you think? Especially since a search for Индексовци AND 117 on Google returns no hits. Balcer 04:24, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Because Indekosovci was group that also had many satrirical songs about Milosevic ,so they were pretty much banned from all TV stations.But thi particural song was played all over the country,and you couldn`t find A SINGLE SERB THAT NEVER HEARD IT!!! Its very famous even outside Serbia.

Also I should just mention such classics as "Ja sam Ja",those are also even more popular songs by Indeksovci.

Blacer,you should ask someone who knows Serbian to help you with that Google search,you will find planty of "return hits".Dzoni 04:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, let me ask you then. What was the title of this song in Serbian? Balcer 04:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Allow me to give you few links to this song:::::::: http://www.tirova.com/glasba/kondor_pada.htm http://www.ptt.yu/korisnici/m/a/makso/new_page_2.htm http://members.fortunecity.com/jupi2/elcondor.htm http://www.vicevi.net/index.php/haag.com/index.php?st=komentar&IDvic=34537

IS THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU? Name of the song in Serbian is "EL KONDOR PADA".

p.s.Balcer,I have done told you that you are wrong about Lepper and now we saw that you was wrong.Now you are wrong again.You should think about quiting WikipediaDzoni 04:47, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. That should have been provided in the first place. Now please explain how "El Condor Pada" translates to "Pilot of invisible F-117-a". Balcer 04:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Anyway, if the article is moved to a title which is the actual translation of the Serbian title, if the links to the Serbian text you listed above are added as external links (so that others can check the translation), and if the popularity of this song is demonstrated with at least a few sources, I will withdraw my delete vote. Wikipedia is not a lexicon of song lyrics, and the song lyrics that it has articles about must be shown to be notable. Balcer 05:02, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok,I changed name to "El Condor Pada",so now there is a prove that its very famous song.Dzoni 11:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete unless a citation can be given that shows its popularity. --cholmes75 02:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - what does it mean to u Cholmes when it would be in language u dont understand?? Luka Jačov 18:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - This shouldn't be deleted but it needs more info. It is already added as trivia in the F-117 Nighthawk wiki page. Diamantidis 4 May 2006

• Strong KeepJamal Curtis 11:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: User's only contribution is this vote. -- ReyBrujo 12:28, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: The first provided link is a 404. I don't think the next two probe its notability, it is just the uploaded lyrics. I am unsure about the last one, it looks like a forum. So far, I am keeping my delete vote as there is no enough evidence yet. Also, is the song in the serbian Wikipedia? -- ReyBrujo 12:28, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

yes,but 2 link are Serban,one is Slovenian and one is English.Tha only means that song was popular even outside of Serbia.Ask any Serb if he heard it,everyone did. I can hardly find a web site that have an article about the song,but not a single SErbian song got articles about it on the internet,does that mean that there is no nobale Serbian songs? Or that just means that they never made it to Internet,but are still famous?Dzoni 12:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Yes song realy exist. I herad for it. --Jovanvb 13:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
• Comment - Actually, Indeksovci would be Indexovo radio pozorište (or Index's radio theater in English). They where/are an acting company, not a music band. Title of the song is play on the title of El Condor Pasa (to which music it is sang) (padati - to fall, pada - falls, so El Condor Pada == El Condor Falls). Should the article be kept? Maybe, but absolutely not in this form - this way it is probably copyvio, or very close to it. --Branislav Jovanovic 21:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep --GTubio 22:03, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. I come from Balkans but never ever heard anything about this song. I think it is not notable enough to have its own article. Just maybe few people heard about it don’t mean it should have its own encyclopedic article. Most of the users who vote to keep this article were asked from Dzoni to do so, some examples: Luka Jačov, serbiana, Lord Eru, Jovanvb. Just look at their discussions and you will see that. Actually the user Dzoni wrote that in Serbian and not in English language. I don’t think that is fair.--Mig11 13:24, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Who are you to think,siptarcino smrdljiva mamu ti jebem.who gives a damn what you think.Dumb bastard.This is democracy,MOST PEOPLE VOTED STAY,SO NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR STUPID ALBANIAN OPINIONDzoni 15:20, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Anyone else getting tired of Dzoni's abusive behavior during this vote? I certainly am. Balcer 15:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep Kris12 OK this is not the place for verbal abuse.

I am a Serb, ni ja ne volim Šiptare ali matori, jebiga nemoj ovde da vredjaš. Reci mi gde mogu da skinem mp3 El Kondor Pada?