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Recent Photos

I have photos available of a V2 rocket engine and some of the tunnels taken by myself at mittelbau-Dora if anyone feels they could be used in the artical. Motorfix 15:13, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gardelegen Massacre, 13 April 1945

This seems quite relevant: [1]. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 20:58, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Their are photos of staggering numbers of deaths from Allied air raids on this camp - originally advertised as Nazi atrocities.159.105.80.141 14:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article states that air raids were a cause of deaths but deemphases it - any numbers as to deaths from air raids ( I assume Allied raids ).159.105.80.141 14:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All I know is what is on that page. This isn't really my area here, just as part of my work on Arthur Rudolph. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mittelwerk

It is my understanding that the production facility was called the Mittelwerk, while the camps were Mittelbau-Dora. Currently, this article makes it appear that the facility and the camps were Mittelbau-Dora. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Goat

A paperback I have here, Conspiracies and Cover-Ups: What the Government Isn't Telling You by David Alexander (Berkley, 2002), is not at all scholarly in nature. So, cum grano salis, we have:
The camp "was infamous for the so-called "Goat," a crane with many steel cables used for mass hangings of men guilty of infractions as trifling as stealing crusts of bread to avoid starvation." (pp. 117–118)
Possibly a better documented book discusses this. Varlaam (talk) 03:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dora Conditions

I noticed this chapter:

"Although most of the prisoners were men, a few women were held in the Dora Mittelbau camp and in the Groß Werther subcamp. Only one woman guard is now known to have served in Dora, Lagerführerin Erna Petermann. Regardless of sex, all prisoners were treated with extreme cruelty, which caused illness, injuries and deaths. Examples of the cruelty routinely inflicted on prisoners include: severe beatings that could permanently disable and/or disfigure the victims, deliberate and life-threatening starvation, physical and mental torture as well as summary execution under the smallest pretext."

None of this is backed up by any references or evidence. Doesn't wiki policy demand that it should be deleted? I don't have the references but suggest to delete this part of the article unless someone can prove these statemants. Pilava (talk) 23:41, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 The camp "was infamous for the so-called "Goat," a crane with many steel cables used for mass hangings of men guilty of infractions as trifling as stealing crusts of bread to avoid starvation." (pp. 117–118)<br />
 Possibly a better documented book discusses this. [[User:Varlaam|Varlaam]] ([[User talk:Varlaam|talk]]) 03:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
+== Dora Conditions ==
+I noticed this chapter:
+"Although most of the prisoners were men, a few women were held in the Dora Mittelbau camp and in the Groß Werther subcamp. Only one woman guard is now known to have served in Dora, Lagerführerin Erna Petermann. Regardless of sex, all prisoners were treated with extreme cruelty, which caused illness, injuries and deaths. Examples of the cruelty routinely inflicted on prisoners include: severe beatings that could permanently disable and/or disfigure the victims, deliberate and life-threatening starvation, physical and mental torture as well as summary execution under the smallest pretext."
+None of this is backed up by any references or evidence. Doesn't wiki policy demand that it should be deleted? I don't have the references but suggest to delete this part of the article unless someone can prove these statemants. [[User:Pilava|Pilava]] ([[User talk:Pilava|talk]]) 23:41, 1 December 2012 (UTC)