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I've begun writing this article as a stand-alone, but will reference it in the Journalism article. I have permission - via email from the author - to borrow informaton and quotes from the source cited below, and will include citations for any quotes. This is a work in progress, so please be gentle with it until I have finished it. Gladmax 04:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is extremely incomplete thus far. There needs to be more and better resources than the single source mentioned below (ie one person's lecture notes). The early-modern period in England needs work especially, given that this is the EN Wikipedia. I'll try to get something going in December on that, hopefully.--Spudstud 18:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism?

I may be borrowing too many words from the source article. I have the author's permission to quote from his article, as long as quotes are attributed, and I plan to do that. However, sometimes it's hard to rewrite his words. All I am putting in comes from his lecture notes. I hope to add information from other sources as time goes by, to make it multi-source.

Anybody who would like to pitch in with information from other sources, please be my guest and help improve this article.

Gladmax 03:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that the entire article is based on one entire source, without any reference to others. Even if you do have permission to use the article and does not constitute plagiarism, it is worth putting a balanced argument by pulling material from a whole range of free sources. Animorphus (talk) 11:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unbalanced -- too much on America

Sorry but it reads like a History of US Journalism with a few token facts about the rest of the world. The US section should be cut back—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.186.8.10 (talk • contribs) 09:13, October 17, 2006 (UTC).

It should also be "United States" when referring to the U.S. -- not "America" -- RCEberwein | Talk 18:11, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the article focuses too much on the history in the United States, where the history of early European journalism, which was the original source of journalism as we know it, is almost entirely left out. I think I'm going to add the Overcoverage template to the front page for now, just to see if we can grab some attention to help clean it up. Animorphus (talk) 10:54, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. Modern professional journalism (as opposed to amateurs pretending to be journalists) first developed in the U.S. and France. Professional journalism did not develop in the UK until much, much later than in the U.S. --Coolcaesar (talk) 12:34, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely agree. I am HORRIFIED at how America-centred (sorry, U.S.-centred) this article is. This is quite inappropriate. I suggest the name of this article be changed to something like "History of journalism in the United States" and a new, proper article really about the subject of the history of journalism generally be written - by somebody! --A R King (talk) 15:32, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 :*I agree that the article focuses too much on the history in the United States, where the history of early European journalism, which was the original source of journalism as we know it, is almost entirely left out. I think I'm going to add the [[Template:overcoverage|Overcoverage template]] to the front page for now, just to see if we can grab some attention to help clean it up. [[User:Animorphus|Animorphus]] ([[User talk:Animorphus|talk]]) 10:54, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 ::Disagree. Modern professional journalism (as opposed to amateurs pretending to be journalists) first developed in the U.S. and France.  Professional journalism did not develop in the UK until much, much later than in the U.S.  --[[User:Coolcaesar|Coolcaesar]] ([[User talk:Coolcaesar|talk]]) 12:34, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
+Absolutely agree. I am HORRIFIED at how America-centred (sorry, U.S.-centred) this article is. This is quite inappropriate. I suggest the name of this article be changed to something like "History of journalism in the United States" and a new, proper article really about the subject of the history of journalism generally be written - by somebody! --[[User:A R King|A R King]] ([[User talk:A R King|talk]]) 15:32, 12 December 2012 (UTC)