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I'll have to ask whoever wrote that for some sort of justification (i.e., specific examples). [[User:ShortJason|ShortJason]] 21:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC) |
I'll have to ask whoever wrote that for some sort of justification (i.e., specific examples). [[User:ShortJason|ShortJason]] 21:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC) |
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I find the begining to be flattering, however it is factual nothing said was wrong, though its style was POV I guess.(not all Egyptians and Muslims are biased). [[User:Zakaria mohyeldin|Zakaria mohyeldin]] 07:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Google shows 383 hits for "Gamal Abdal Nasser" (of which Wikipedia are, unsurprisingly, 1 and 2) and 12,200 hits for Gamal Abdel Nasser. I'll move the page tomorrow unless there are strenuous objections. - Hephaestos 06:53 May 3, 2003 (UTC)
- Please do. -- Zoe
There is a sentence "Nasser died of a heart attack only two weeks after the war ended, on September 28", but the war ended in August 7. Is it the longest tow weeks in the history? Eran 16:33, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Minor Changes
- Removed the line "Some accounts however, say that it was a sound Egyptian military victory." because it really offers nothing to the passage. The line before this one drew the same conclusion without telling the reader exactly what the author thinks.
- Also removed a few double spaces in this paragraph.
Abdul mit Klappstuhl
What Happened?
What Happened to the Nasserism, Legacy, Six-Day War, Arab leader and Personal sections? Also why were all of his pictures removed?
Don't know about the pictures but I rather rewrote the article, i suppose i rather left out those sections, feel free to add them back. ShortJason 21:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Nazi Connections
I think there should be at least some mention of Nasser's connections to Nazis.--AI 22:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- I read the 800 pages of Robert Stephens' Nasser - A political biography a couple of months ago and there was no mention of any nazis and Nasser. Nasser kept a low profile during the war. As far as I remember Anwar Sadat wanted to have German help to force the British out of Egypt. Nothing came out of it, Sadat was arrested and sentenced to prison in 1942. Sadat and Nasser had met at the War College before the war but Nasser spent the most of WW2 in Sudan. Thuresson 00:13, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
- Your old (1971) "source" is deficient? Nasser's regime had connections with the post-war Nazi fugitives. Study ODESSA. And here is a more recent book Gamal Abdal Nasser (1918-1970) by Goodrick-Clarke.--AI 08:26, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
- If they are going to be mentioned, they should include _specific_ source citations. publication title and specific page numbers for example.
- Many if not most Middle Eastern leaders were sympathetic to the Nazis. Eg., Reza Shah in Iran. It was logical because the Muslims generally wanted to end Jewish settlement in Palestine. So what?
I'm sorry but when you claim connections with nazi fugitives you should be accurate in stating that they were scientists working for the nazi regime, which according to my knowledge went to the United States, The former U.S.S.R. and among other countries Egypt. They came to develop technology and weapons just like they did in other countries —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zakaria mohyeldin (talk • contribs) .
Family
The spiel about Hoda Abd El Nasser under "Early Life" seems way out of place and far too spammy. First, it has absolutely nothing to do with Nasser's early life. Second, it is an advertisement and really belongs under "external links". Third, the theory of operation of the advertised website and archives do not need to be explained on a page about Nasser. It really needs revision.
- Agreed. It's on my to-do list, but very near the bottom, so feel free to fix it. Palmiro | Talk 17:03, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Palmiro, I do not think it is the norm here that family members piggy back on their famous relatives.
Gamal and Jamal
The name of the presedent Gamal can be pronounced Jamal also. Indeed, Jamal is the pronunciation in formal Arabic, and other arabic dialects except for egyptian. Since Nasser was egyptian i see why his name is written Gamal, but i think it should be mentioned somewhere that it could be pronounced Jamal. The point is that when i searched for Jamal, i got no results, and i was confused. I believe that when you search for Jamal Abdel Nasser, it should return the result of Gamal Abdel Nasser. I have never edited an article in Wikipedia, and i'm hesitant to do so, at least right now, because i dont know how. So would someone work on that please?
Brioni Declaration?
There are photos on the page of Nasser with Tito and Nehru which are only explained as part of the 1956 "Brioni Declaration," an event I can't find on Wikipedia and which seems to refer to a 1991 event as well (judging from search engine results). The photos also appear on Non-aligned_nations - which is not linked from the Nasser page - so it has something to do with that, but more of an explanation is in order.
- It's thisBrioni declaration. Arre 23:22, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
The start of the article is written in a biased view, and not factual. Possibly by an Egyptian or Muslim I would imagine.
I'll have to ask whoever wrote that for some sort of justification (i.e., specific examples). ShortJason 21:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I find the begining to be flattering, however it is factual nothing said was wrong, though its style was POV I guess.(not all Egyptians and Muslims are biased). Zakaria mohyeldin 07:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)