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Virginmarys

Hi ,I reverted you edit to The Virginmarys article, because the band really formed in 2006. There's clear proof online that they released the song soul vampire in 2007 http://www.uberrock.co.uk/interviews/58-july-interviews/1061-ally-dickaty-the-virginmarys-interview-exclusive.html. I don't have an actual reference to confirm the 2006 date, but I know it to be true. Tubefurnace (talk) 19:49, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a promotional tool, it deals in facts. I've followed the band for many years, my source is an email dated September 2006 in which I referred a friend to MySpace.com/thevirginmarys. I guess Ally rounded late 2006 to early 2007 in the interview I cited. Of course I am a fan of the band, and wish them and their manager all the best. However, I will not support untruths, and the 2008 formation claim is not true. Understandably, the band are keen to present the selves as a newly formed band with a debut album, and I think some of their promotion is deliberately miselading to exaggerate that newness. Tubefurnace (talk) 19:18, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, i hope you do not think I am being confrontational about this as I too am merely looking to deal with facts. I am just letting you know what I had been asked to do by the band themselves. May I ask if it was you who set up the page originally.? As I have been asked to find this out also. Leestgeorge (talk) 19:23, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you can see it was me who set up the page, Wikipedia is transparent in that respect. I don't particularly want to argue about this. It's just a matter of fact. Tubefurnace (talk)

I'm sure the band, their management, you, me,we've all got better things to do. And they're a great band, whether they formed in 2000 or 2012.Tubefurnace (talk) 19:31, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I wasn't sure it was you who created the page. I was unsure where to look to find this out Leestgeorge (talk) 19:36, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Any help in expanding the content of the page would be much appreciated. It's rather sparse at the moment, and there aren't enough references. Same goes for King of Conflict. In both cases I've aimed to get something started with the bare basics, in the hope that the pages would be expanded in due course, with proper citations to mainstream media articles and so on. Tubefurnace (talk) 19:48, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I should say that someone else did try to introduce a Virginmarys page last year, but it was "speedily deleted" on the basis of insufficient references and claims to notability. I started this page which seems to have avoided those problems, but there is more work to be done. Tubefurnace (talk) 19:52, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 Yes, you can see it was me who set up the page, Wikipedia is transparent in that respect. I don't particularly want to argue about this. It's just a matter of fact. [[User:Tubefurnace|Tubefurnace]] ([[User talk:Tubefurnace|talk]])
 I'm sure the band, their management, you, me,we've all got better things to do. And they're a great band, whether they formed in 2000 or 2012.[[User:Tubefurnace|Tubefurnace]] ([[User talk:Tubefurnace|talk]]) 19:31, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
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 Sorry, I wasn't sure it was you who created the page. I was unsure where to look to find this out [[User:Leestgeorge|Leestgeorge]] ([[User talk:Leestgeorge#top|talk]]) 19:36, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
-No problem. Any help in expanding the content of the page would be much appreciated. It's rather sparse at the moment, and there aren't enough references. Same goes for [[King of Conflict]]. In both cases I've aimed to get something started with the bare basics, in the hope that the pages would be expanded in due course, with proper citations to mainstream media articles and so on. [[User:Tubefurnace|Tubefurnace]] ([[User talk:Tubefurnace|talk]]) 19:48, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
+:No problem. Any help in expanding the content of the page would be much appreciated. It's rather sparse at the moment, and there aren't enough references. Same goes for [[King of Conflict]]. In both cases I've aimed to get something started with the bare basics, in the hope that the pages would be expanded in due course, with proper citations to mainstream media articles and so on. [[User:Tubefurnace|Tubefurnace]] ([[User talk:Tubefurnace|talk]]) 19:48, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
+::  I should say that someone else did try to introduce a Virginmarys page last year, but it was "speedily deleted" on the basis of insufficient references and claims to notability. I started this page which seems to have avoided those problems, but there is more work to be done. [[User:Tubefurnace|Tubefurnace]] ([[User talk:Tubefurnace|talk]]) 19:52, 17 February 2013 (UTC)