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Is Saif Al-Dawla captured by SAA?

Accroding to this story (in Arabic) with footage from inside the district, Syrian Army gained control of the neighborhood by end of July. http://www.almayadeen.net/ar/news/syria-_xEsieTg7UeoV6ILAQS_Bw/%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%A9-%D8%A5%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%81-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A9 Ahmadac (talk) 15:31, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Changes are needed on the map

In Reef Aleppo, violent clashes are taking place, between regime forces and rebel fighters, in the areas in Kafarhamra and al-Lairamun, and news were received about casualties among regime forces.https://www.facebook.com/syriaohr/posts/41795987164569037.54.31.41 (talk) 19:44, 8 September 2013 (UTC) I agree the map has not been updated in a while and there are changes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.172.179.244 (talk) 02:06, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Renewed ethnic violence around Kurdish quarter

Clashes have broken out between Arab rebels and Kurdish militia again in Northern Aleppo. In addition to the usual clashes on the fringes of Shaykh Maqsud and 'Ashrafiyah, it seems that clashes are also occurring in the vicinity of Shqayef to the north as well as in parts of Rasafah (Youth Housing and Bani Zayd—likely meaning that we have understated the Kurdish zone here. Sources: [1] [2]. Yellow should be extended to the northwest with a fringe of olive, with opposing green and yellow arrows there. Our olive area at the northeastern ring road probably suffices for Shqayef, but some arrows should go there too. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 20:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Or our control map was correct, and these clashes indicate a PYD offensive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.171.122.205 (talk) 08:01, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

No, neither PYD, not rebel groups involved mention PYD offensive. EllsworthSK (talk) 20:23, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

The PYD also has no strategic interest in capturing any larger, Arab-dominated part of Aleppo. All of their engagements in this area have been defensive in nature. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 02:13, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Map misleading

All latest reports indicate that regime forces in Aleppo are surrounded. The map should pan out, as the map seems to suggest that there is a corridor out of the city for pro-Assad forces, which there is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.121.75 (talk) 00:16, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Face it guys, expanding the map is too much work. It ain't happening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.48.191.228 (talk) 05:54, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

There is actually a corridor between western Aleppo and the airport, the rebels cut the supply line much further south. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.202.5.162 (talk) 05:36, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Al-Aziza

Quite alot of twitter talk saying Al-Aziza has been taken by the FSA, not sure how true it is.90.210.239.82 (talk) 21:56, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Not quite, there's still fighting going on. FSA has begun storming the village, but it's not over yet. [3]. Let's wait a little more before changing it. Moester101 (talk) 06:12, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

30 September,Rebel fighters launched several domestic rockets on regime strongholds in the A'ziza village.https://www.facebook.com/syriaohr/posts/42764941401006992.113.218.45 (talk) 19:08, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

al-Sakan al-Shababi neighbourhood

Clashes broke out last night in the al-Sakan al-Shababi neighbourhood of Aleppo city between YPG fighters and rebel fighters, intermittent clashes are still ongoing between both sides. http://syriahr.com/en/index.php?option=com_news&nid=899&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.Uk0c_6Dd03Q37.52.28.177 (talk) 08:43, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Map edit is incorrect?

Just noticed a map edit has been made based on Updated the map based on the information provided on Battle of Aleppo (2012-13) and Cities and towns during the Syrian civil war As far as i know al-Aziza is under attack from the FSA and other parties. I am unsure as to what the situation is at the airport though. Could really do with real information from trust worthy [and uptodate] sources before edits are made? 5.67.44.60 (talk) 22:20, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Seems to have Reverted 5.67.44.60 (talk) 22:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Some guy's trying to ruin the map. Since it needs an update, I got this [4] pic from opposition source from 2 days ago which is very accurate based on street level. Major changes based on it, looks like we had a lot of areas wrong... Moester101 (talk) 07:58, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes you can tell just how accurate that map is that it marks such obvious locations as Hanano barracks as being partially rebel held, all the Kurdish areas as "rebel controlled", no govt presence at Marat Artiq, etc. Next time they'll just color all of Aleppo green and you'll say we need to adjust the map to this new reality. Actually they already did, do you want me to get you the "greenest" map of Aleppo for you from rebel sources? "Major changes" indeed XD 98.224.32.154 (talk) 15:22, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, because the Syrian rebels are totally reliable source...Kermanshahi (talk) 12:13, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, a lot of the changes are in government's favor, such as making the large area above the airport red. Also, I didn't copy the opposition map 100%, I just used it template for unclear areas where we don't hear much news about. Next time really look at the changes before making your comments. Moester101 (talk) 09:14, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

The page Cities and towns during the Syrian civil war was recently updated to show al-Aziza as gone from disputed to government held. Someone just updated this map to show that development, a necessary update. But I guess if you're not in business of Takfiri propaganda you're just trying to "ruin the map." Kermanshahi (talk)

The government propaganda edit on the Cities map will be dealt with, as apart from Aziza, the same edit also marked Maarat-Al-Numan and Hajar-Al-Aswad as contested. The latest information is that there are clashes in Aziza. And there is in fact no government presence in Maarat Artiq, the last news from that area was that rebels took Hohni. --197.106.32.204 (talk) 05:45, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Update: user who made the Cities map edit has apparently been banned. That pretty much clears it.--197.106.32.204 (talk) 05:47, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

There was a government presense in Marat Artiq 4 days ago and I've heard no news of its capture by rebels. What happened?

From LCC:

"In Aleppo, FSA targeted regime forces gathering centers in Maaret Artiq, and regime forces gathering centers in Sfeira as well. FSA also targeted Nubbul and Zahra villages with many artillery shells and scored direct assaults. In Aleppo as well, FSA targeted Soap Factory that is considered as a regime forces center in Old Aleppo neighborhood."

Here's also a video of FSA firing mortars at Marat Artiq, also 4 days ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMXssYuUI-w 98.224.32.154 (talk) 08:17, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

...firing mortars at... hmmm well SAA fired mortars at Raqqah. Following your argument perhaps we should change Raqaah to 'contested' Just check the violations documentation center(pro rebells page) and see the 'martyrs' during last days...there is dead from SAA'mortar shelling... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.73.216.221 (talk) 17:39, 13 October 2013 (UTC) 0

oh god, what? No, that's not my logic at all, please learn to read English. 98.224.32.154 (talk) 18:00, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Last thing known, the army tried to capture Marat Artiq in May and failed. In a counter offensive, the rebels seized Hohni, which was the furthest point of the army's advance towards Marat Artiq. Is this not what happened?--197.171.98.212 (talk) 21:14, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't know, you tell me. :) I just know a lot of rebel sources claim that there is fighting and rebel shelling of Marat Artiq, I had provided some of those but there are many more. I don't know where Hohni is or what is the situation there. 98.224.32.154 (talk) 15:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Sakhur

Sakhur is marked as not contested? Please provide sources! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.84.86.14 (talk) 11:16, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Please check the archive, it was agreed when Sakhur was marked contested two months ago (when there were clashes around the water company) that it would revert to rebel held if no clashes occurred there in the next two weeks. It has been two months.--197.106.32.204 (talk) 05:30, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Exactly. No clashes for 2 months means it's not contested. Moester101 (talk) 09:16, 13 October 2013 (UTC)