Talk:Frame language

needs example

Frame language - badly formatted, content is unintelligible. Fredrik 14:12, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

This needs a concrete example, badly. Dysprosia 00:12, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

What exactly is the "frame concept"? Albertzeyer (talk) 12:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Need article on frames in computer science

Ugh. This article is really nasty. To get a much better definition of a "frame", see Abelson, Sussman "Structure and interpretation of programming languages", section 3.2.

The C/C++ notion of a stack frame is a special case of a frame, as is the AI "slots & frames" concept (see frame problem). The concept of "execution environments" in Lisp are also frames (and wikipedia does not even have any articles on that). Also, an environment variable in a shell is just something that is defined in the "frame" of the shell. (i.e. frames are sometimes called "environments"). We need an article that explains what a frame is, and how the above 4-5 things are really just the same idea in different forms. linas (talk) 20:05, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Needs separate article on frames in computer science, if at all. "Frames" in CompSci have the much better term of "scope" expandable to "scope of accessibility". The "frame/scope" garble-up in this article doesn't belong to here, where the topic is "frames" in a meaning of event context representation, in the sense of knowledge representation of human events, for example the context of walking to a bar to drink beer. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 21:09, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't know any details of what a stack frame is but I looked at that link and that has absolutely nothing to do with the concept of Frames as in AI Frames. Totally different concepts. RedDog (talk) 01:40, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

First Sentence is Wrong

Currently the first sentence says: "A frame language is a metalanguage. It applies the frame concept to the structuring of language properties. Frame languages are usually software languages." A Frame language is not a meta-language. A meta-language (in fact it's rare to actually have a true meta-language) would be a language only to reason about other languages. I can't really think of a language that I would classify as a meta-language (the old Refine language from the Kestrel institute comes closest). What does happen is that people use meta-models to specify an actual language or model or aspects of a language include a meta-language that lets the language do reflection. I don't know what "applies the frame concept to the structuring of language properties" that seems like gibberish to me. And Frame Languages aren't "usually" software languages, they always are, at least I don't know of any frame language that isn't. I plan to clean up this article but thought I would start by documenting some issues in case anyone wants to discuss. RedDog (talk) 01:37, 7 December 2013 (UTC)