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I honestly believe that there was a lot of bad will on behalf of the powers of the day, as they were eager to carve up the sick man of Europe. Sadly, religion played a major role as a means to an end in this struggle just like it did for Stalin and the Soviets when the Germans invaded during operation Barbarossa. I have noticed that the witnesses that the other side mention tend to be relgious figures or persons with deep religious convictions, others tend to be second hand wintesses getting information from questionable sources. Also, nobody is denying that massacres didnt take place. In those chaotic times Im sure a lot of bad things happened and both sides are to blame. It was quoted by a historian (I dont recall who) that an empire in decline is a very dangerous empire indeed. We have seen this throughout history and one could argue that we are seeing it today with the United States and the very aggressive stance of the current administration. I do have one question though to illustrate my point regarding the Ottoman empire: Suppose a hypothetical situation where Israel is being invaded by arabs and the shear existance and survival of the country is at stake, do you seriously believe that they would hesitate for a moment to use their nuclear arsenal? Would you blame them for doing so? The US used the nuclear weapon for much less: to diminish the cost in manpower that a conventional war would lead to. Let me know what you think! [[User:Lutherian|lutherian]] 06:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC) |
I honestly believe that there was a lot of bad will on behalf of the powers of the day, as they were eager to carve up the sick man of Europe. Sadly, religion played a major role as a means to an end in this struggle just like it did for Stalin and the Soviets when the Germans invaded during operation Barbarossa. I have noticed that the witnesses that the other side mention tend to be relgious figures or persons with deep religious convictions, others tend to be second hand wintesses getting information from questionable sources. Also, nobody is denying that massacres didnt take place. In those chaotic times Im sure a lot of bad things happened and both sides are to blame. It was quoted by a historian (I dont recall who) that an empire in decline is a very dangerous empire indeed. We have seen this throughout history and one could argue that we are seeing it today with the United States and the very aggressive stance of the current administration. I do have one question though to illustrate my point regarding the Ottoman empire: Suppose a hypothetical situation where Israel is being invaded by arabs and the shear existance and survival of the country is at stake, do you seriously believe that they would hesitate for a moment to use their nuclear arsenal? Would you blame them for doing so? The US used the nuclear weapon for much less: to diminish the cost in manpower that a conventional war would lead to. Let me know what you think! [[User:Lutherian|lutherian]] 06:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Khoikhoi I edited both Alexandroupoli and Xanthi as we discussed. I believe now everything is OK. Since you are interested in Greek and Turkish related articles and since you have edited in the past the [[Greco-Turkish relations]] article, maybe you should edit/watch it more often:). Last time i checked it out there were massive nationalistic/propaganda views regarding Greek airpsace violations (!!), the recent sad death of a Greek pilot , Smyrna/Izmir etc etc. I think your comments and edits would be most welcome.Regards.[[User:Mywayyy|Mywayyy]] 11:57, 25 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Thank You
Thanks for your welcome. :) Doluca 17:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Responded on behalf of Turkish people
Sheesh, that's become a circular argument regarding Turkish people. Yeah, is it just me or is Azeris taking a lot more time and effort than the last two? Not that I mind too much, but boy I'd sure like to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Yeah, busy, busy, busy. Yet I find myself coming here anyway "for a minute" which ends up an hour or two at least. ;) Tombseye 20:26, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah I might go for a peer review next time, but it's the same thing anyway. I mean either way people respond and critique and you rewrite. If I do a peer review and then go to the Featured Article stage chances are the same problems will come up, only twice. A good solution might be to talk to the various folks who have brought up some valid criticisms (Tony's definitely there) before the nominating process and then go into the FA nomination. Either way there's no easy solution and the only way to make an article pass is through a lot of proactive involvement, that much is clear! Tombseye 20:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Man you ain't kiddin'. After all this work, Azeris should get two days on the Main Page! Tombseye 20:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Picture of Azari Refugess
Although I am concerned and upset about both Azari and Armenia refugees and beleive they are essentially the same people, on an academic basis I question this picture being posted on this article. It seems to be POV, and once again the article seems to be getting a non-neutral, biased Republic of Azarbaijan tilt to it again. I object to the posting of this picture and I also ask all editors to consider the changes being made recently. 69.196.164.190
URMIA-people
Dear Khoikhoi,
I noticed that you have made some seemingly-minor, yet rather significant alterations to the People-section of the Urmia page. You have, for instance, removed the portion which stipulates that the Kurds currently constitute a majority in the city. With all due respect to your credentials and reputation, I firmly believe that you do not possess sufficient knowledge in the case of the demographics of North-West Iran. Furthermore, the latest edition made by Heja helweda does- to be frank- disrupt the flow of the sentences, thus making them look less effective and credible. The following sentence, for instance, "Kurds are settled in and around the vicinity of Urmia" is a restatement of a fact, for the reader already knows that Kurds live in URMIA, hence the sentence becomes ambigious(as the article is entitled "Urmia"). The aforementioned quote does not give any historical context, unlike the previous edition. Hence, I would respectfully request that you revert back to my edition. Let me also add that I am not affiliated with any political/religious/etc. parties/ideologies. Hence, my contribution to Iran-related articles are objective. I remain,
Istanbul images
I added a category line "Category: Istanbul images" to the images I uploaded. But i dont know how to create a category. Can you help me with that? also, is that a proper name for a category. (btw, shall we also tag them as Turkey images?) DeliDumrul 06:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
witnesses
I honestly believe that there was a lot of bad will on behalf of the powers of the day, as they were eager to carve up the sick man of Europe. Sadly, religion played a major role as a means to an end in this struggle just like it did for Stalin and the Soviets when the Germans invaded during operation Barbarossa. I have noticed that the witnesses that the other side mention tend to be relgious figures or persons with deep religious convictions, others tend to be second hand wintesses getting information from questionable sources. Also, nobody is denying that massacres didnt take place. In those chaotic times Im sure a lot of bad things happened and both sides are to blame. It was quoted by a historian (I dont recall who) that an empire in decline is a very dangerous empire indeed. We have seen this throughout history and one could argue that we are seeing it today with the United States and the very aggressive stance of the current administration. I do have one question though to illustrate my point regarding the Ottoman empire: Suppose a hypothetical situation where Israel is being invaded by arabs and the shear existance and survival of the country is at stake, do you seriously believe that they would hesitate for a moment to use their nuclear arsenal? Would you blame them for doing so? The US used the nuclear weapon for much less: to diminish the cost in manpower that a conventional war would lead to. Let me know what you think! lutherian 06:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Ppacenames: Finally I think we're OK
Khoikhoi I edited both Alexandroupoli and Xanthi as we discussed. I believe now everything is OK. Since you are interested in Greek and Turkish related articles and since you have edited in the past the Greco-Turkish relations article, maybe you should edit/watch it more often:). Last time i checked it out there were massive nationalistic/propaganda views regarding Greek airpsace violations (!!), the recent sad death of a Greek pilot , Smyrna/Izmir etc etc. I think your comments and edits would be most welcome.Regards.Mywayyy 11:57, 25 June 2006 (UTC)