Talk:Post-transition metal: Difference between revisions
Double sharp (talk | contribs) m Double sharp moved page Talk:Post-transitional metal to Talk:Other metal over redirect: the T in PTM is for "transition". See Sandbh's recap of the discussion that led to this decision. Pretty much everybody adopts their own term for this and h... |
m Nergaal moved page Talk:Other metal to Talk:Metals other than the alkali, alkaline-earth, lanthanide, actinide and transition metals: I can't wait to see where this goes |
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Revision as of 16:40, 3 May 2014
Why the name change from poor metal to other metal?
I updated the content of this article today. It used to comprise a redirect to poor metal. That redirect is gone and replaced with new content about the other metals. The content that was previously in the poor metal article been replaced by a redirect to this article.
Basic reason for doing so is that there is no widely recognised label for the second string metals between the transition metals and the metalloids. Wikipedia should reflect this, with individual writers and teachers being free to use more specific names of their choice, multiple examples of which are given in the article, as is the rationale for the descriptive phrase 'other metal'. See also here. Sandbh (talk) 11:40, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Other is an undefined word here.
My dictionary defines the word other as meaning Not the same as one or more of some already mentioned or implied .... Here the word is used as the first word of an article title, so nothing has been already mentioned or implied, and the word is meaningless in this context. Wikipedia does not have articles entitled Other molecules, Other reactions, Other countries, Other presidents etc. etc.
If I understand correctly, this name was chosen because it was felt that none of the other synonyms considered is entirely satisfactory. My solution would be to choose the least unsatisfactory synonym and to mention its shortcomings. My own choice would be P-block metals, which also means Groups 13-16 of the periodic table. Dirac66 (talk) 20:14, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hi @Dirac66: Sorry I missed your post. Nergaal is talking on this topic, here. He has already changed the article from other metals to post-transitional metals without prior discussion. I think my response there covers off on your quite interesting suggestion. Happy to chat right here or at WikiProject Elements. Sandbh (talk) 12:32, 3 May 2014 (UTC)