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Trello Marketing Removal

All content removed was from the companies own website. It is advertising/marketing when the companies plants information in wikipedia and then uses their own website to back it up.

Thereandnot (talk) 13:54, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite. If it's a direct copy of their text, then it's a copyright violation and should be removed, otherwise. it's just supported by a primary source, which isn't ideal, but not wrong. I have a serious problem with your editing though. I think you should avoid editing articles by your competitors until you have a better understanding of how Wikipedia works. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:10, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

These claims are not verafiable anywhere expect their own website. Small companies like these can claim anything on their website and it is not true. These are Self-Published sources WP:BLPSPS.

Competitors? What the hell are you taking about?! You are showing bad faith(WP:BADFAITH). I am not a competitor to this company. I am just calling this advertising like it is!

Thereandnot (talk) 14:35, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. I confused you with an editor who has been complaining about articles like this and gutting them. Since you have cleared up my confusion, I need to clear yours up. Since this is not a biography of a living person, BLPSPS does not apply, WP:PRIMARY does: "Unless restricted by another policy, reliable primary sources may be used in Wikipedia; but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them". The material is not being misused as far as I can see, but perhaps you can explain it. I have restored the material while we discuss this. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:35, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I edited the article to make it seem less deceptive to users. There is a healthy skepticism around these numbers they are pushing. They are the only ones reporting them. Thereandnot (talk) 02:32, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed. I would argue it's poor writing as well, but you had an agenda and you can have your way this way too. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:18, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, I have no interest in this software or its competitors. However, I will rip down anything that seems like small or large corporate manipulation violation of neutrality. If you feel like you need a neutral third party weighing in on a situation that is similar(corporation posting information about itself evidenced only by claims on its own website), post on my wall and I will step in with consistency.Thereandnot (talk) 23:20, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::: I edited the article to make it seem less deceptive to users. There is a healthy skepticism around these numbers they are pushing. They are the only ones reporting them. [[User:Thereandnot|Thereandnot]] ([[User talk:Thereandnot|talk]]) 02:32, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 ::::: I noticed. I would argue it's poor writing as well, but you had an agenda and you can have your way this way too. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 04:18, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
+:::::: Once again, I have no interest in this software or its competitors.  However, I will rip down anything that seems like small or large corporate manipulation violation of neutrality. If you feel like you need a neutral third party weighing in on a situation that is similar(corporation posting information about itself evidenced only by claims on its own website), post on my wall and I will step in with consistency.[[User:Thereandnot|Thereandnot]] ([[User talk:Thereandnot|talk]]) 23:20, 20 June 2014 (UTC)