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Gamecrufty article about an international Super Smash Bros. Melee tournament that claims notability on the basis of having had a whopping 186 entrants; the article says it's the most entrants in a tournament "of its kind", which is pretty easy seeing as there's no other SSBM tourneys to compete with it. As it stands, it reads like an advertisement for the next tournament. I'm voting to just get rid of it. Danny Lilithborne 06:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep this tournament has establish notability. It will be rewritten. Sources also have been cited of its reach beyond just that of smash. Also there is a citation about Newscasters interviewing players and the tournament scene. Please read the entire article. Also if you did any research you would note that smash has the largest tournament community. Therefore there are many tournaments to compete with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.248.218.111 (talk • contribs)
- The entire article is 70% self-promotion and 20% "oh wow we were on the news once". And I don't think you understood what I was trying to say. I am very familiar with how popular a tournament game SSBM is. Read what I said over again. Danny Lilithborne 07:04, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Ryulong 06:58, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as no more notable and important that the local Church Fete. --Peripitus (Talk) 07:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom GassyGuy 08:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A few notes. This initial reason for recommended deletion was based on a bias (negative personal feelings) toward the creator of the page. Reading through this article provides both citations and reports of the notablilty of this tournament. To view an unnotable tournament see NorCal Tournament. Melee FC has been portray by the media, and thus gone beyond that of interest community. Therefore, not only having a massive impact on the Smash community, but also is known outside of interest group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.248.218.111 (talk • contribs)

Delete per nom ... who, by the bye, is an AfD regular; please assume good faith. That being said, there seem to be plenty of us quite unconvinced of this small gaming tournament's notability, as well as the article's unsourced assertions of magazine coverage and size, and turned off by the cut-and-paste from a flyer. I found the assertion of an "international" tournament, based on the one guy showing up from England, especially piquant. RGTraynor 08:38, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, non-notable video game tournament. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 08:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete My college has SSBM tournaments, too. I'm not writing articles about those. -- Kicking222 11:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious Delete. If we're to start including every event where 100 people show up, then we're going to need articles about most yard sales, open houses, kids' lemonade stands, etc. I think not. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Those familiar with the Smashboards/Smash Brothers tournament community know that this has been the most competitive and diverse Smash tournament for the last two years, even compared with the professional leagues, therefore "non-notable" is not a reason to delete. It is a meaningful part of the Smash tournament scene's culture, and not just a tournament at some college or in someone's backyard, but held and supported by professional gamers who regularly compete in professional tournaments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.74.212.255 (talk • contribs)

Reasons for keeping. Please note that World Series of Poker and World Poker Tour are tournaments, that though received large publicity, only applies to that interest group therefore is technically not notable. Because of publicity WSOP has become notable. What makes Melee FC notable is that, say someone not apart of the tournament community is interested in finding out what the largest tournament is. Smash has sold over 6 million copies and as a result the interest group is much larger than just that of the tournament, therefore people would be interested. This article is an interesting read any gamer, smash related or not. Both poker and smash has received Television publicity. also, this tournament has larger notablilty than many Magic: The Gathering players, which each have their own article. Also this article has notability because it is the most notability aspect of a certain interest group. The pinnacle of all interest groups already have, or deserve an article on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.248.218.111 (talk • contribs)
Delete as non-notable. Ifnord 14:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep notable as the apex of tournaments in smash. More notable then Magic: The Gathering players. Article is none bias and has notability. Known outside of interest group. killerhun00
Delete - This tournament really isn't that big. Comparing it to WSOP is nonsense. Wickethewok 14:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This tournament really isn't that big. Comparing it to WSOP is nonsense., Correct, but it follows the same concept. Therefore deletion would violated wikipedia rules.

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 * '''Keep''' -  Those familiar with the Smashboards/Smash Brothers tournament community know that this has been the most competitive and diverse Smash tournament for the last two years, even compared with the professional leagues, therefore "non-notable" is not a reason to delete.  It is a meaningful part of the Smash tournament scene's culture, and not just a tournament at some college or in someone's backyard, but held and supported by professional gamers who regularly compete in professional tournaments. {{unsigned|129.74.212.255}}
-* Reasons for keeping. Please note that [[World Series of Poker]] and [[World Poker Tour]] are tournaments, that though received large publicity, only applies to that interest group therefore is technically not notable. What makes Melee FC notable is that, say someone not apart of the tournament community is interested in finding out what the largest tournament is. Smash has sold over 6 million copies and as a result the interest group is much larger than just that of the tournament, therefore people would be interested. This article is an interesting read any gamer, smash related or not. Both poker and smash has received Television publicity. also, this tournament has larger notablilty than many Magic: The Gathering players, which each have their own article. Also this article has notability because it is the most notability aspect of a certain interest group. The pinnacle of all interest groups already have, or deserve an article on Wikipedia. {{unsigned|71.248.218.111}}
+* Reasons for keeping. Please note that [[World Series of Poker]] and [[World Poker Tour]] are tournaments, that though received large publicity, only applies to that interest group therefore is technically not notable. Because of publicity WSOP has become notable. What makes Melee FC notable is that, say someone not apart of the tournament community is interested in finding out what the largest tournament is. Smash has sold over 6 million copies and as a result the interest group is much larger than just that of the tournament, therefore people would be interested. This article is an interesting read any gamer, smash related or not. Both poker and smash has received Television publicity. also, this tournament has larger notablilty than many Magic: The Gathering players, which each have their own article. Also this article has notability because it is the most notability aspect of a certain interest group. The pinnacle of all interest groups already have, or deserve an article on Wikipedia. {{unsigned|71.248.218.111}}
 *'''Delete''' as non-notable. [[User:Ifnord|Ifnord]] 14:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * '''Keep''' notable as the apex of tournaments in smash. More notable then Magic: The Gathering players. Article is none bias and has notability. Known outside of interest group. [[User:killerhun00|killerhun00]]
 *'''Delete''' - This tournament really isn't that big.  Comparing it to [[WSOP]] is nonsense.  [[User:Wickethewok|Wickethewok]] 14:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
+* ''This tournament really isn't that big.  Comparing it to [[WSOP]] is nonsense.'', Correct, but it follows the same concept. Therefore deletion would violated wikipedia rules.