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::Well, I think it is breaking policy, but I [[WP:INVOLVED|shouldn't be the one enforcing that]]. But what I mean is this: doesn't ''my'' volunteer effort count too? How demoralizing do you think it is for me to see that message? You asked for transparency, and I tried to be as transparent as possible. It's not anything personal against you, I just didn't think that you were a good match for this particular role. That doesn't mean that there aren't other roles that you can fulfill on Wikimedia. [[WP:CUOS2013|I got rejected too, a year ago]] and found other opportunities. --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 01:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
::Well, I think it is breaking policy, but I [[WP:INVOLVED|shouldn't be the one enforcing that]]. But what I mean is this: doesn't ''my'' volunteer effort count too? How demoralizing do you think it is for me to see that message? You asked for transparency, and I tried to be as transparent as possible. It's not anything personal against you, I just didn't think that you were a good match for this particular role. That doesn't mean that there aren't other roles that you can fulfill on Wikimedia. [[WP:CUOS2013|I got rejected too, a year ago]] and found other opportunities. --'''[[User:Rschen7754|Rs]][[User talk:Rschen7754|chen]][[Special:Contributions/Rschen7754|7754]]''' 01:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
:::I agree completely it's demoralizing. I'll consider your rationale. [[User:Hell in a Bucket|Hell in a Bucket]] ([[User talk:Hell in a Bucket#top|talk]]) 01:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
:::I agree completely it's demoralizing. I'll consider your rationale. [[User:Hell in a Bucket|Hell in a Bucket]] ([[User talk:Hell in a Bucket#top|talk]]) 01:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
::::Ok I've considered the situation. My feelings are unchanged. I'm sorry that this bothers you, really I am but the fact that I keep coming back to is that, I'm not the one that said it. I understand that this may not be your finest or proudest comment you've made but under the circumstances and nature of the entire scenario this is possibly not your opinion at all and is perhaps the message the other clerks wished you to convey on their behalf (honestly the only people that know is the people involved in the private conversations) and if that's the case hopefully you can use this to show that private determinations like that cause problems. I would note a few have said nice things when I opened my RFC but the gist I got from that is "We are not to be questioned." Sadly this is just the straw that broke the camels back, I'm tired of being a whipping post. I admit freely that some of that has been my own doing but with so many things I am not suited for it makes me question why stay here at all, if I wanted to stay in one place I would stay in one place. I have goals, I want to be needed somewhere. The overall message I've had for a while is that I'm not needed and from a vocal few I'm not wanted. I guess life goes on and the search continues. [[User:Hell in a Bucket|Hell in a Bucket]] ([[User talk:Hell in a Bucket#top|talk]]) 02:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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Sorry, Demiurge, that's not how it works. Anyway, I have expressed my concerns here, and the fact that the candidate was also pushing really hard to be a clerk was a bit offputting for me too. --Rschen7754 03:52, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Quote transplant found in archives [[1]] Hell in a Bucket (talk) 01:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC) [reply]

Question

I suppose you're not a huge fan of me right now, but I just have one question, and then I'll leave you alone if you want.

If I were to (hypothetically) replace my userpage right now with [2], would that be okay? --Rschen7754 01:10, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm breaking any policies I'm not aware of by all means please remove it. I have correctly attributed the quote and I have not modified it in anyway. I suppose signing it would make it more clear it's a quote and not posted by you. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 01:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I think it is breaking policy, but I shouldn't be the one enforcing that. But what I mean is this: doesn't my volunteer effort count too? How demoralizing do you think it is for me to see that message? You asked for transparency, and I tried to be as transparent as possible. It's not anything personal against you, I just didn't think that you were a good match for this particular role. That doesn't mean that there aren't other roles that you can fulfill on Wikimedia. I got rejected too, a year ago and found other opportunities. --Rschen7754 01:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree completely it's demoralizing. I'll consider your rationale. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 01:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I've considered the situation. My feelings are unchanged. I'm sorry that this bothers you, really I am but the fact that I keep coming back to is that, I'm not the one that said it. I understand that this may not be your finest or proudest comment you've made but under the circumstances and nature of the entire scenario this is possibly not your opinion at all and is perhaps the message the other clerks wished you to convey on their behalf (honestly the only people that know is the people involved in the private conversations) and if that's the case hopefully you can use this to show that private determinations like that cause problems. I would note a few have said nice things when I opened my RFC but the gist I got from that is "We are not to be questioned." Sadly this is just the straw that broke the camels back, I'm tired of being a whipping post. I admit freely that some of that has been my own doing but with so many things I am not suited for it makes me question why stay here at all, if I wanted to stay in one place I would stay in one place. I have goals, I want to be needed somewhere. The overall message I've had for a while is that I'm not needed and from a vocal few I'm not wanted. I guess life goes on and the search continues. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]