Talk:Habbo

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Bobba Filter?

was something deleted from this comment? Flamingspinach 01:38, 14 January 2006 (UTC) article, it claims that if you try to type "my thoughtS EXactly" you get "my thoughtbobbaactly", or the "sex" gets censored. However, I tried typing sentences just like that on the US Habbo Hotel, and the censor did not apply. I have seen it apply on other internet games, but not Habbo. Could somebody verify the information, or should I get rid of it?--Thecosmos 01:08, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

It applies to the UK Habbo Hotel, but each hotel has their own Bobba Filter; some use different words; I'll clarify that now. We don't call the rooms pictured the Avalon Lounge or Alloy Lounge on our hotel, by the way. --Matharvest 04:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The wordlists are different for every hotel due to the different languages used on each site. Also, the bobba filter is continually updated with new words, so this may be fixed sometime in the future. During my employment there I started work on trying to rewrite it to be much more accurate and efficient, but I didn't have time to finish it. Shame! --wirah 21:51, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

US laws

I don't know anything about Habbo Hotel, but it is very unlikely that there is a law against banning people from an online community, or a law against selling characters on eBay. Does anyone have an article which verifies this information? Several parts of this article make claims about US law which appear to be wrong. It's common for people in the US to sell MMORPG items and characters on eBay. Rhobite 19:35, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Selling on eBay

Habbos don't actually sell the furniture on eBay because Sulake say the Habbos are "borrowing it for a fixed price" and that it still belongs to Sulake. Because of this, Habbos just sell the time it takes for them to move the furni onto the winning bidder's account. Very clever ;) :P

Answer: It's all thanks to the terms and consitions of each hotel.

Sualke do actually go through ebay and get habbo related listings removed. They try and do this for the safety of some newer members who may try and buy things off ebay which they then never receive - a common scam known by the more established habbos

Fansite Links

I've just fixed up the fansite lists in the article, however it seems most days I look at the page someone has either innocently tried to put their unofficial site into the list or put links or even articles about their own scamsites into the page. In order to keep neutral point of view, can we not add links to sites that are not recognised as official fansites by the various hotels? Of course if I'm wrong, please correct me. Oh, and someone really needs to watch this page more often to get rid of the scam site links - I've been picking them up within a couple of days. bornhj 11:45, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

I think that, why not strip off the Fansite Links area? 220.255.31.146 11:40, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

No, I think the section should remain the way it is. You can usually count on the official fansites to give correct information... what I mean is, Habbo ltd. came up with the official fansite idea most likely to provide users with safe, reliable information. Plus there would be debates on which fansites should go on this page and which fansites shouldn't, and habbo ltd. already run regular poles to decide on this. Code E 02:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Habbo Hotel promotes scamming,hacking and cybersex

Haboo Hotel does very little to stop these types of behavior, so in affect they are actually promoting this behavior. I don't play the game anymore because Habbo hardly ever banns anyone.If I had kids I would not let them play because of the major lack of supervision.

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Habbo Hotel has strict policies in place to deal with this sort of behaviour, it is Sulake's highest priority. This is why the Hobba system has been discontinued in many of the hotels and the MOD system introduced. Supervision is provided by these moderators through the simplest method possible. It is up to the users of the hotel to report behaviour such as this and almost all users are aware of how to do so. I fail to see how you believe the Hotel promotes 'scamming, hacking and cybersex', I've got nothing else to respond or defend because you haven't provided any evidence to back up your statement. Please find some then get back to me and I'd be happy to defend it, or if need be, agree with you. BigglesTheGreat 14:16, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

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If you want proof, all you have to do is report someone for breaking the rules. Do that and you will have proof.

If your a MOD or a Hobba, then I suggest that you create a new account and go online as someone that nobody knows, then report someone who is obviously breaking the so called rules and watch what doesn't happen.

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Nothing doesn't happen. Believe me, not EVERY incident results in a ban. Most result in a simple warning. Bornhj 07:37, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

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Bornhj has a MOD or a Hobba ever responded to you for turning someone in who is clearly breaking the rules? What Habbo Hotel says and does is a complete contradiction.

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Actually, I can't remember the last time they didn't respond. Bornhj 13:34, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

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Sorry but Bornhj is rather correct. The Moderators' jobs are to moderate the hotel. There are strict policies in place for these employees as there are with any other job in any other company on Earth. The moderators are paid to do their jobs and, in my opinion, each of them do it well. --BigglesTheGreat 15:10, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

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I don't know which branch you two are palying on because if you go to Habbohotel.co.uk or Habbohotel.com you will see that everythiing that I've said is true.

If there is a branch that actually enforces the rules, I would be more than glad to look into it.

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I'm a long-time user of Habbo Hotel. Since there is a WikiPedia talk section on this, I decided to do some private investigation. Viewing the startup screen, and looking under "Help Rooms" in the guest section, I found over a dozen "gang" and "army" rooms, each promising pay for working as a Spy, Assassin, Soldier, etc., despite the fact that Habbo Hotel is chiefly nonviolent. There is also evidence of scamming as well in the majority of the gaming rooms. This can be constitutionalized by:

• Favorites picked by the host that always win in some way or another
• If not above, after a regular player wins a game, the host kicks out everyone in the room, wasting the "winner's" time (and possibly money)
• Coaxing into "donations" to increase the prize pool

The Gaming Rooms are basically gambling rooms, where you basically put your "furni" on the line in hopes to increase it. Habbo Hotel management even says that some of the rooms are run by untrustworthy people. Unfortunately, the hotel staff is not entirely amicable to stop these scamming operations. I used the "Call for help" feature to notify a moderator of another person who was scamming in a Gaming Room, and was afterwards threatened by the management that I would be banned for not using the "ScamBusters" system (which is not so instantaneous).

Scams in Habbo Hotel are also conducted by hiring gangs or user-operated places of employment, that offer to pay for the amount of effort worked. In the same room, there may be commanders or people of high rank that may testify to getting paid, though they may merely be the owner's friends or clones. Frequently, the leader of a gang will hire a person for a duration of time, during which the leader advises the employee that after working a period of time, he or she will be paid. This is not always true, since:

• There is no contract or labor union entitling the worker to being paid, and therefore the employer does not need to pay him/her
• Payday usually comes about by achieving a certain rank
• Once "payday" ever does come, the employer may turn on the employee, claiming that he/she betrayed the organization, and thereby fire him/her

What horrifies me is that three-fifths of all guest rooms are scamming businesses. Perhaps the Internet itself is not safe for ANY form of parental control, if there are people on Habbo Hotel - of all places - trying to turn the place into GTA?--67.141.148.138 06:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

As valid as your points are, this page is for discussing the article about the hotels, not the hotels themselves. --james °o 07:35, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Gorillaz tour

From the email I received from the Gorillaz newsletter, August 20 2005. Maybe this tour is worth a mention in the article:

Gorillaz to visit Habbo Hotel for their hols!

Gorillaz have decided to take a break from all their hard work over recent months, and to vacate on round trip vacation around Habbo Hotel.

MON     22 AUG  5 PM Tokyo time         JAPAN 	
TUE 	23 AUG 	6 PM sydney time 	AUSTRALIA 	
TUE 	23 AUG 	6 PM Singapore time 	SINGAPORE 	
WED 	24 AUG 	1 PM LA, 4 PM NY time 	USA 	
THUR 	25 AUG 	2 PM Helsinki time 	FINLAND 	
FRI 	26 AUG 	4 PM Toronto, 1 PM Vancouver 	CANADA 	
MON 	29 AUG 	2 PM Frankfurt time 	GERMANY 	
TUES 	30 AUG 	2 PM Amsterdam time 	NETHERLANDS 	
WED 	31 AUG 	2 PM Rome, 	        ITALY 	
WED 	31 AUG 	6 PM Madrid time 	SPAIN 	
THUR 	1 SEPT 	2 PM Paris time 	FRANCE 	
FRI 	2 SEPT 	2 PM London time 	UK 	

2D, Murdoc, Noodle and Russel will be chatting to fans across the world. They will all be given computers from which they log into Habbo Hotel and various theatres they'll be visiting. The band will try and meet as many people as possible in the hour they'll be in each country.

After this massive live event, a private interview with a limited amount of lucky fans will take place in specially furnished guest rooms, decorated in the honor of Gorillaz!

-WindFish 10:51, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Maybe this would be about the right time to add an Advertising/Promotion/Sponsorship-type section to the article? Bornhj 00:02, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree. It should include things like this as well as advertisement/sponsorship throughout the Hotel and Hotel website. --BigglesTheGreat 02:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

yea i just satrted playinf habbo and im in an army on it and people are reportting my room for stupid reason but yea the MODS get there within 30 minutes each time i was reported so the rules are encforced belive me ask the habbo hotel police "slimedd" aske him

Revamp

If you can call it that, I'm doing a fairly comprehensive edit of the article over at User:Bornhj/habbo. So far, I've cleaned up the Current hotels section, the moderation section, and added the section on Habbo Credits. I'm still planning on adding the advertising section, and I'm not really keen on the fansite lists in their current state. Any suggestions on how to show these fansites? Right now, I'm considering ditching the links and just having a link to the list on each hotel. Comments please, Bornhj 10:23, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Critisicism Section

I'm reverting the article back to my last version, mainly to remove the Criticism section. In it's current state, it seems to be unrecoverable, and just a plug for some random's blog. If anyone (apart from User:222.152.177.232 who added this secton) disagrees with me, please feel free to revert to the edit by User:222.152.177.232.

I'm not sure if it is a plug for some randoms blog or not because that guys coloumn and reviews are syndicated round the world.

Someone does need to do a critisism section because the things commented on Habbo Hotel are real problems.

—preceding unsigned comment by LordHavelockVenteri (talk • contribs)

Reading the site... ([1]), it seems odd that he has 6 posts, posted 5 of them in September then a post about Habbo Hotel in November, yet is synicated around the world? Especially with his grammar...

Oh, and please sign your posts with ~~~~ (WP:SIG). Bornhj 11:01, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Look, I know this guy and I know that he was just trying to promote his blog. He's trying to make money or get hits on his site or something like that. The grammar might just have been him trying to impersonate George Bush, which he does quite regularly. I strongly suggest that nobody puts that silly section back in. No disrespect Eden (or lordhavelockventeri), but just stop promoting your site and yourself on wikipedia. --Nhinds 01:45, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Added Protection

There has been a terrible display of complete immature vandalism since March 8 on this article. Protection is desperately needed in order to save this article from complete disruption. --Biggles 14:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

You need to request protection before you add the protection templates. Head over to requests for protection and request semiprotection as opposed to full protection. --james °o 00:34, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

yes..people are abusing the editing 220.255.159.39 08:46, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

It's probably related to the 4chan /b/arricade or something. Removed someone's 'contribution'. Anonymous.

Scripting/Scamming Sections?

Well, a while back I had decided to remove the section "scripting" and "scamming" because they had went far into detail. But I'm wondering, should those sections be added again in more 'appropriate' wording? Code E 01:00, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I removed them once or twice as well. If you want to write one, go ahead, but you don't need to explain how to script or anything. Just talk about the sorts of problems it causes and stuff like that. Maybe post it on this page before you add it in. Cheers. --james °o 00:07, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand why. That's blatant censorship. It's not YOUR decision if this is ok or not, information is information, and that's what wikipedia is. Unless you meant you wanted to port it to Wikibooks, which I couldn't imagine why... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.68.203.80 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia is not an instruction manual. --james °o 09:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I would just like to say that I, as a user of wikipedia, did not condone the part about the scamming, it was my sister as I dont use Habbo Hotel EVER Cheeseman1 16:45, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I just came to say that there are so many hackers/scammers on habbo and it sucks example Nik- He keylog's people and take all their furni away from their account. It is unfair as we paid for these furni and hackers take them away from us. You know why they hack? It's because they can't afford their own credits and have to steal. Hence they are TRAMPS!!! UNDERSTAND

Extrenal links

I think we should keep a few EL's per hotel for fansites. There looks to be alot of links. --Actown ^e 15:52, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Per WP:EL we've got two options:

1. Come to a consensus over a few 'major' fansites to be listed.
2. Just link to the official lists for each hotel.

I'd prefer number 2... comments? --james °o 02:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with option two there. --Biggles 17:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

In that case I've been bold and made tha change. Feel free to RV if you don't like it. --james °o 01:35, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Looking a lot better! --Biggles 16:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Roleplay Section

I've reverted this addition (diff) a few times now. I refactored everything from it that was salvageable into the new Activities section, and trashed the rest. It keeps getting added though. Though I'd post here to gauge some sort of consensus as to whether the material from that diff is worthy of being included in its current form, or whether the Roleplay section of Activities is more relevant... --james °o 07:57, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Age of users

The article should have information on the age of users. In Finland users seem to be between 7 and 12. (Older people use IRC-Galleria). -- Petri Krohn 15:29, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I disagree as it is plainly a 'youth-aimed service'. Feel free to add a simple sentence based on that fact. --Biggles 16:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

TARDIS reference

I'm simply wondering whether there'd be a reference unto the TARDIS by way of the red teleportation devices.. If this can be verified, it would certainly be merit in the segment of Popular Culture there and a mention herein. DrWho42 22:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

The teleportation devices within Habbo Hotel rather claim to be influenced by The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe. --Biggles 09:47, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

The wardrobe teles do... the telephone boxes have to be a reference to the TARDIS... but whether that's really encyclopedia-worthy in anything other than a Trivia section is up for debate... --james °o 12:14, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, well, there should be a trivia section for these sorts of things. DrWho42 04:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and I wonder why you have made this suggestion (without looking at your username). --Biggles 01:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Not a real whole lot to wonder on really.. Simply accidentally made the mistake of assuming that I inserted the tildes when in actuality I did not and thusly forgot the fact that I hadn't gave the necessary till I double-checked sometime later (on). DrWho42 05:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Habbo Roleplay Does not Lead To BANS!

I changed it, cuz it isnt true inless. When starwars roleplayers roleplay like *slices arm* and do raids, rarely if ever do they get banned or even warned by Habbo staff.

The quote: "Such raids often drive Habbos to break the hotel's rules, and hence leads to numerous bans, for offences such as swearing and harassment." Hotel rules all specify that violence is against the rules. Hence, it's a valid conclusion to draw. --james_{(lets talk)} 01:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Famous Visitors Section

I've just added a Famous Visitors section. Feel free to edit with other pixel-visits by famous people in other hotels. Just thought I'd help solve the gorillaz prob from a while ago. :) --glasnt^<3 04:25, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

This is a nice advertisement

I hope Wikipedia got paid well for it. --208.41.98.142 19:24, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a advertising post. Wikipedia do not get money from companies who have listings in here. This article is written by users, not employees. You should read the info wiki has on this kind of stuff. --glasnt^<3 23:20, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I was being sarcastic. This thing reads like the back of a software box touting how great the software is. --208.41.98.142 15:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow, when did you read your last software box? --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 21:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

This article is simply too large, with too many inconsequential inclusions. Habbo is an inconsequential site outside of the early and mid-teen crowd that primarily flocks to it, and a few trolls that enjoy hassling them. I think if it's to exist, a good place to start to get information on how to adequately cover an online community would be with the Slashdot article (although obviously without the specialized sections such as "slashdotting"). --208.41.98.142 17:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Amen, this article fucking fails! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Countchoc (talk • contribs) 01:26, 13 July 2006 .

Updating hotel links

Most of the links in the end of this article are for habbohotel.** not the new habbo.** format. Of the content pages I've checked, most of the old links go to the current pages - eg habbohotel.com.au/common/en/community/fansites --> habbo.com.au/community/fansites i think. Do we want to go though and update all the actual links, or are the ones that are auto-redirecting ok for now? --glasnt^<3 03:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

They should definitely be changed to habbo.** where appropriate, keeping in mind the hotels that don't use it (e.g. the UK Hotel is only accessible through habbohotel.co.uk). Especially any references (this article could do with some references). --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 04:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

POOLS CLOSED

With regard to the partys involved and the extent of what is being called the "habbo raid" it is being hugely underestimated. Thousands of trolls from various organisations showed up to raid the hotel in & out. Possibly the most interesting thing to ever happen ever to the habbohotel, without a doubt very noteworthy. It wasn't just limited to raiding, there was various DDoS attacks related to the troll raids and never before seen organisation by internet trolls & griefers. F The trolling organisations involved in perhaps this first time large-scale internet 'raid' were [from most contributing to least were]; /b/, Bantown, EncyclopediaDramatica, myg0t, and the Church of Bob(unconfirmed).

This has also resulted in showing to all the incapacity of the moderators on habbohotel, who went on huge banning sprees, which resulted in habbos online tally dropping tremendously. This was also stressed when a moderator banned an Admin "Duncan" while on a banning spree, which was the mod reaction to the invasion. The banning of a fellow admin along with all the other thousands of innocent users clearly illustrated the ineffective moderating on habbohotel.

It usually is. Many people have been banned for the sole reason of protecting other users from getting AIDS via the pool. They are martyrs and should be honored with the dearest respect.

I don't really like those people...they are a distubance to Habbo and deserve to be banned! --Dspradau 13:19, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

That's because you are a douchebag. -- Jesus, lol

Not just a douchebag, but probably a faggot too. -- CJayC AKA Jeff Veasey

Hey this site claims that the site is down because of the pool blockades http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Habbo_/B/lockade is that true? DyslexicEditor 22:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

False. Stop adding this nonsense. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 06:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

The pranks are true. These types of things get noted in many articles. For verifiability, there's many screenshots of this in /b/ on 4chan. If it is not notable enough, I'd like you to explain why. DyslexicEditor 14:28, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay I also found out Gaia Online, a competitor was behind it. That makes it a whole lot more notable. DyslexicEditor 15:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. No hotel was closed because of some silly "blockade" of the pool. It happens every hour of every day on every hotel. It's not notable just because someone special did it. I doubt Gaia would do such a petty thing but if you want to cite verifiable sources (Encyclopedia Dramatica is not verifiable, something like an official statement by Gaia staff is) to prove it that I'd be happy to read them. Until then, I'll quote my edit summary: "rv nonsense, if we documented every single "blockade" we could start a whole new wiki". --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 16:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Why doesn't it deserve a small note? Also I am thinking of going there and you said that you visit there, correct? What sort of minimum bandwidth do I need? I have a 56K connection and I fear it may be too slow. DyslexicEditor 19:03, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

N-O-T-A-B-L-E! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7468703035503617981&q=4chan V-E-R-I-F-I-A-B-L-E! Well, I am going to declare victory over this wiki-argument. DyslexicEditor 21:38, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Being on Google Video does not make something notable. I can upload something there right now, does that make it notable? Granted, the video does prove that it happened. But that doesn't make it notable. Like I said, if you want to mention it, you should mention every single "group" or "mafia" who blocked the pool - there's thousands. Right now, I don't see anything particulary noteworthy of this particular blocking. (56k should be fine, it might take a while to load but once it does there shouldn't be any problems) --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 02:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

The griefing is definetly noteworthy; it's a major and frequent disruption to popular sections of the US HH in particular, and for a significant number of people it's the most enjoyable part of the game. It's common enough for the Habbo administrapo themselves to issue advice on the website, change the bobba filter, and issue on-sight bans to players with a particular combination of character graphics. It's not necessary to "mention every single "group" or "mafia" who blocked the pool", a general reference would be sufficient, but none at all is an unjustifiable omission imo. Radix 13:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I would agree that mention of pranks like this is useful. It was only through reading the now-reverted description, which had previously been posted, that I understood what is going on. It is certainly not "nonsense"! (Tindwcel 14:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC))

Can somebody get a URL of that stuff on the site (what Radix said, "issue advice on the website") and put it in the article? DyslexicEditor 14:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I have no objection to including a mention that blocking the pool etc is against the rules (discipline section?). What I do object to, however, is discussion of a particular group ("African American persona with an Armani suit and trousers") doing a specific thing ("claiming that there is AIDS in the pool."). If you want to mention that blocking of the pool happens a lot, that's fine by me, but don't mention a specific group or website or spread a theory that someone was behind a specific incident. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 14:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Glad you changed your mind. DyslexicEditor 15:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Made the changes. :) Feel free to chop/change/remove/eat as usual. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 16:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

07/12/06: NEVAR FORGET

Dear Mr. Wikimod, I have screenshotted Proof and IRC Chatlogs proving that this was NOT made by "many groups" but solely by one. Since it is a massive invasion started by one community and the mass of Serverload forced the Administration of Habbo Hotel to shut down the Hotel temporarily, it should be included into the article. Why, you may ask? Because it happened. CNN reports about News that happen, Wikipedia has Articles about things that exist and happen with them.

The group is /b/. They call themselves nigras and /b/rothas. They are the ones who dress in suits, afros, and brown skin. They saved you from AIDS in pool. They have won.

Yup. Only /b/ have afrosuit. YTMND and other inferior blockers have different uniforms.

Habbo Mafias

I think the article should say more about mafias in habbo because in the UK version having or working in a mafia is one of the most popular things to do.

bandwith required?

What is the required bandwidth needed to use Habbo Hotel? DyslexicEditor 16:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Dialup is fine, the hotel will take a long time to load but it will function fairly well once it is loaded. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 16:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Thanks for locking the article. I believe those that have violated WP:VAN should seriously consider reading up on the standards at Wikipedia. Seicer (talk) 03:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Bunch of people from 4chan. It's not like they care. Thursday Postal 03:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Nice work ppl. V's were getting hard to manage. Arx Fortis 03:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I step away from this page for 4 hours, and look what happens! :P (Glasnt last edit : 9:32 ish) glasnt^<3 04:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

This is why you should edit Wikipedia instead of playing games :) Seicer (talk) 04:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I wasn't playing games. I was working! :P. *anyway* glasnt^<3 04:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, there's a huge raid on habbo (the site not article) today. People were vandalizing this article because they wanted it locked as a sign of importance. DyslexicEditor 04:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Is there a credible source on this? I would be interested in reading it. If its there, amend the article to include that at the end? Seicer (talk) 04:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

ebaumsworld, 4chan's /b/, and encyclopedia dramatica organized the raid. I don't know if there's a good source. Goto habbo right now, especially by pools. That's what people said. DyslexicEditor 04:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Is this related to the Gaia Online blockade that is in a caption, per chance? I think people invest way too much time into this... (er, replace invest with waste) Seicer (talk) 05:06, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Until there's a credible source that Gaia Online are involved, I've removed the pic. Also, it's a fair use image which doesn't add to the article. It's just vanity on the part of 4chan. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 05:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

1. There's no such thing as 4chan
2. The raiders were from Gaia Online, Ebaum's World, and BlackPlanet.com. Nowhere else. JayW 05:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Dude. You're obviously being an idiot. And you're overlooking SomethingAwful and Encyclopaedia Dramatica. And I have never heard of blackplanet prior to your insane claim. Also, Gaia's kind of doubtable, since a lot of 4channers are just trolling in attempts to get Gaia in trouble.--ArrEmmDee 05:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

This raid was planned by 4chan's /b/ and no one else. I won't have ebaum's or fucking Gaia taking our glory. STAND PROUD MY /b/ NIGRA BROTHERS. Go hang out in 4chan.org's random board if you want to see proof. --LOLNIGRA

That's original research until you cite credible sources. For the record, I dispute that this raid crap is worth a mention in the article at all. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 05:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm skeptical as to whether you really dispute it. Can I have credible source for that? No offense, but you're, er... incredible. JayW 05:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I dispute it because I wasn't there and haven't seen any evidence saying "We are responsible" from Gaia, Ebaum's or BlackPlanet. Link me to statements on those sites saying they did it, then I'd believe you. I *have* seen it from Encyclopedia Dramatica and /b/. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 05:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

And for the record, my "credible source" for me disputing that this is relevant is here. I don't need any other source for my opinion. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 05:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not original research. It's a fact. There was a raid on Habbo today. Irrespective of whether or not some other source writes an article about it for Wikipedia to cite, it did happen. Liu Bei 05:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Did you even read WP:NOR? "the only way to demonstrate that you are not doing original research is to cite reliable sources which provide information that is directly related to the topic of the article, and to adhere to what those sources say." It doesn't matter whether you say it happened - until someone else publishes something about it (and that source fulfils WP:RS), it is, by definition, original research. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 05:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

You want proof? Hang out in the random board on 4chan sometime.

The current picture at the beginning of the article is not the one that appeared earlier today. Someone has changed the source picture. The picture with a character stating "POOL'S CLOSED, AIDS" is all part of the same vandalism and related to the recent problems with Habbo Hotel itself. Can someone restore the original picture? If not, I'll delete the reference. Thanks. Arx Fortis 06:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I've replaced the Image:Diverse Habbo.png and Image:HabboAUGuestRoom.png images, since both seem to have been added during the vandal attacks earlier today. Any comments/objections?--TBCTaLk?!? 08:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:HabboAUGuestRoom.png was just vandalised, I reverted it to the older version and readded it :) --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 10:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

The raid may still be going on. Anyone can verify for themselves. Also ED was involved. See their main page: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com The raid is a featured article. DyslexicEditor 07:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

/b/ on 4chan has been planning this raid for about a month. ED jumped on the wagon.

With regard to the partys involved and the extent of what iS being called the "habbo raid" it is being hugely underestimated. Thousands of trolls from various organisations showed up to raid the hotel in & out. Possibly the most interesting thing to ever happen ever to the habbohotel. But it wasn't just limited to raiding, there was various DDoS attacks and unbelievable organisation on part of the troll organisations. For the record ebaumsworld and gaia has no involvement, but provided a humourous scapegoat. The trolling organisations involved in perhaps this first time large-scale internet 'raid' were [from most contributing to least were]; /b/, Bantown, EncyclopediaDramatica, myg0t, and the Church of Bob(unconfirmed).

This isn't really an organised raid, though, it's just getting the word out and letting the Zerg Rush handle it. I was on the battlefield earlier today and there wasn't any organisation- if someone shouted out a sensible order(e.g. "Close the changing rooms, full of syphilis", when the pool had already been closed), someone would probably follow it. We were dedicated to the cause, and knew what we were doing, but not centrally organised. Signed, Anonymous, who is Legion.

Discussions

Let's limit our discussions to Habbo Hotel and stop with the flame wars, ad-hominem blanter, and personal attacks. I suggest those involved (and you know who you are) read up on the talk page guidelines. Seicer (talk) 03:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)