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*'''Support''' - good image with EV in its own article.--[[User:Godot13|Godot13]] ([[User talk:Godot13|talk]]) 20:27, 3 August 2015 (UTC) |
*'''Support''' - good image with EV in its own article.--[[User:Godot13|Godot13]] ([[User talk:Godot13|talk]]) 20:27, 3 August 2015 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' --[[User:Tremonist|Tremonist]] ([[User talk:Tremonist|talk]]) 14:03, 4 August 2015 (UTC) |
*'''Support''' --[[User:Tremonist|Tremonist]] ([[User talk:Tremonist|talk]]) 14:03, 4 August 2015 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' - What is your source for your assertion that the sitter is [[Francesca Caccini]]? You made this assertion at [[Francesca Caccini]] a few days ago without providing a source, and then at your article start citing the NGA, but that source makes no mention of Caccini. A search on the internet gives no sources, though it's true that Caccini was a friend of Artemisia. Presumably an outstanding Wikipedia editor of your status pays some attention to [[WP:VERIFY]] (or perhaps there comes a point where the elite don't have to?). Would you care to enlighten us lesser folk, or failing that explain yourself? Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/138.199.74.80|138.199.74.80]] ([[User talk:138.199.74.80|talk]]) 18:39, 4 August 2015 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''' - What is your source for your assertion that the sitter is [[Francesca Caccini]]? You made this assertion at [[Francesca Caccini]] a few days ago without providing a source, and then at your article start citing the NGA, but that source makes no mention of Caccini. A search on the internet gives no sources, though it's true that Caccini was a friend of Artemisia. <strike out>Presumably an outstanding Wikipedia editor of your status pays some attention to [[WP:VERIFY]] (or perhaps there comes a point where the elite don't have to?). Would you care to enlighten us lesser folk, or failing that explain yourself? Thank you.</strike out>[[Special:Contributions/138.199.74.80|138.199.74.80]] ([[User talk:138.199.74.80|talk]]) 18:39, 4 August 2015 (UTC) |
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*:You can leave out the character slurs if you genuinely want an answer; do it again and I'll smack your hand with a ruler; you might think I don't know who you are, but that just means you'll have to live in fear, never knowing when I might strike. [[User:Belle|Belle]] ([[User talk:Belle|talk]]) 00:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC) |
*:You can leave out the character slurs if you genuinely want an answer; do it again and I'll smack your hand with a ruler; you might think I don't know who you are, but that just means you'll have to live in fear, never knowing when I might strike. [[User:Belle|Belle]] ([[User talk:Belle|talk]]) 00:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC) |
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*:: Ouph ... I'm almost tempted not to strike out. Apologies. But it is frustrating, and it's not as if this is the first time this sort of thing has happened in this group. An editor has now come on to the article (perhaps you know her too?) to clean up. But there are still issues. It's not my period at all, but a single glance suffices to show this a very non-Caraveggio like painting: it's just the subject which was the influence. What's the betting we don't soon have a DYK about Caccini being the sitter here? The editor does need to show good faith and explain himself. Look at the next "support", where it's simply accepted despite this comment. To repeat there is no evidence that Caccini was the sitter, nor is it suggested anywhere in the sources that can be gleaned from the web (and a major one is the Judith W. Mann source I copied over from [[Orazio Gentileschi]]: that's available in full with just this painting as its bookcover where Caccini is mentioned not once). And the assertion ''was'' made with a citation that didn't verify. I've seen it said by purist content creators that that is THE cardinal sin in Wikipedia, worse even than being a sock (ugh the nasty, smelly things). [[Special:Contributions/138.199.74.80|138.199.74.80]] ([[User talk:138.199.74.80|talk]]) 03:18, 5 August 2015 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' sharp clear image of a noted musician. The caption itself needs a little tidying up for spellchecking-'father' for 'fater','and' for 'an' and would 'musicians' be preferable to 'musicants'(I'm not familiar with that word).And as for Belle lurking about waiting to strike,was she doing it the other night? SOMETHING was rustling about behind the dustbins.I assumed it was next door's cat.I'm keeping a wary eye on that hedge now... [[User:Lemon martini|Lemon martini]] ([[User talk:Lemon martini|talk]]) 00:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC) |
*'''Support''' sharp clear image of a noted musician. The caption itself needs a little tidying up for spellchecking-'father' for 'fater','and' for 'an' and would 'musicians' be preferable to 'musicants'(I'm not familiar with that word).And as for Belle lurking about waiting to strike,was she doing it the other night? SOMETHING was rustling about behind the dustbins.I assumed it was next door's cat.I'm keeping a wary eye on that hedge now... [[User:Lemon martini|Lemon martini]] ([[User talk:Lemon martini|talk]]) 00:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC) |
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*:<small>The cat's my sidekick. You're on my list, Lemon martini, you're on my list. [[User:Belle|Belle]] ([[User talk:Belle|talk]]) 01:12, 5 August 2015 (UTC)</small> |
*:<small>The cat's my sidekick. You're on my list, Lemon martini, you're on my list. [[User:Belle|Belle]] ([[User talk:Belle|talk]]) 01:12, 5 August 2015 (UTC)</small> |
Revision as of 03:18, 5 August 2015
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 12 Aug 2015 at 21:07:31 (UTC)
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- Reason
- EV, lead picture in four articles, a good scan - The Lute Player (Orazio Gentileschi) is a Baroque painting from 1626 by Italian painter Orazio Gentileschi depicting Francesca Caccini, a famous Italian composer, singer, lutenist, and poet of the early Baroque era. She is know for being the first woman who ever wrote an opera. Orazio Gentileschi is know for being a talented painter and for being the father of an even more famous painter, her daughter, Artemisia Gentileschi. He apparently supported and liked strong women. Orazio Gentileschi had a more refined, subtle and softer, less dramatic style than his daughter.
- Articles in which this image appears
- The Lute Player (Orazio Gentileschi), (own article) Orazio Gentileschi, Andrea Salvadori, Francesca Caccini, Kirtle, Lute
- Creator
- Orazio Gentileschi
- Support as nominator – Hafspajen (talk) 21:07, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Conditionalsupport - Assuming the article can be finished in time. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:24, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Article is ready. Hafspajen (talk) 00:50, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- When I commented, it was still in user space. Thanks. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:09, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Well, I got stucked. There were several paintings made by Artemisia Gentileschi with a lute, and then it was The Lute Player, The Lute Player (Caravaggio) and The Lute Player (Hals), so it was a bit tricky to mainspace it. Hafspajen (talk) 12:36, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Support —Jobas (talk) 08:31, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Support - good image with EV in its own article.--Godot13 (talk) 20:27, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Tremonist (talk) 14:03, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - What is your source for your assertion that the sitter is Francesca Caccini? You made this assertion at Francesca Caccini a few days ago without providing a source, and then at your article start citing the NGA, but that source makes no mention of Caccini. A search on the internet gives no sources, though it's true that Caccini was a friend of Artemisia.
Presumably an outstanding Wikipedia editor of your status pays some attention to WP:VERIFY (or perhaps there comes a point where the elite don't have to?). Would you care to enlighten us lesser folk, or failing that explain yourself? Thank you.138.199.74.80 (talk) 18:39, 4 August 2015 (UTC)- You can leave out the character slurs if you genuinely want an answer; do it again and I'll smack your hand with a ruler; you might think I don't know who you are, but that just means you'll have to live in fear, never knowing when I might strike. Belle (talk) 00:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Ouph ... I'm almost tempted not to strike out. Apologies. But it is frustrating, and it's not as if this is the first time this sort of thing has happened in this group. An editor has now come on to the article (perhaps you know her too?) to clean up. But there are still issues. It's not my period at all, but a single glance suffices to show this a very non-Caraveggio like painting: it's just the subject which was the influence. What's the betting we don't soon have a DYK about Caccini being the sitter here? The editor does need to show good faith and explain himself. Look at the next "support", where it's simply accepted despite this comment. To repeat there is no evidence that Caccini was the sitter, nor is it suggested anywhere in the sources that can be gleaned from the web (and a major one is the Judith W. Mann source I copied over from Orazio Gentileschi: that's available in full with just this painting as its bookcover where Caccini is mentioned not once). And the assertion was made with a citation that didn't verify. I've seen it said by purist content creators that that is THE cardinal sin in Wikipedia, worse even than being a sock (ugh the nasty, smelly things). 138.199.74.80 (talk) 03:18, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- You can leave out the character slurs if you genuinely want an answer; do it again and I'll smack your hand with a ruler; you might think I don't know who you are, but that just means you'll have to live in fear, never knowing when I might strike. Belle (talk) 00:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Support sharp clear image of a noted musician. The caption itself needs a little tidying up for spellchecking-'father' for 'fater','and' for 'an' and would 'musicians' be preferable to 'musicants'(I'm not familiar with that word).And as for Belle lurking about waiting to strike,was she doing it the other night? SOMETHING was rustling about behind the dustbins.I assumed it was next door's cat.I'm keeping a wary eye on that hedge now... Lemon martini (talk) 00:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- The cat's my sidekick. You're on my list, Lemon martini, you're on my list. Belle (talk) 01:12, 5 August 2015 (UTC)