Talk:Jimmy Page

Changed "Brian Pool and the Tremeloes" to the correct spelling "Brian Poole and the Tremeloes". So what if I'm a pedant? Also, Ritchie Blackmore played lead guitar on 'Just Like Eddie' by Heinz - not Page. Page would never ever have played sessions for Joe Meek because of his disliking of the way Meek worked and how the guitar sound was compressed and speeded up. Heston is in West London - not North London It's very long, which is good, but it has no sections. It's almost as bad as a run-on paragraph or something.

Where is that black-and-white picture of Jimmy Page? 'The image cannot be found' now, despite any image searches of 'Jimmy Page wikipedia' that might suggest otherwise.

Whoever knows what I'm talking about and knows where to obtain it, please post the image where it once was.

Regarding biography

It seems to me that the existing biography was largely ripped from Page's official site. Shouldn't this be remedied? Also, I think there should be a proper discography here, given Page's stature in the musical world. --Zoso 00:24, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That isn't Page's official site. To my knowledge he doesn't have one. El cactus 04:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Violin bow

I would like some info on the bow incident... When/Where? Mention it in the article perhaps? Redwolf24 10:51, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Jimmy Page used a violin bow on his guitar many times, it wasn't just a single incident, infact I don't know a show where he didn't use it :) - although given the huge amount of LZ shows there must have been a few. He mostly used it on their song "Dazed and Confused", but also used it during "How Many More Times" in earlier performances (they stopped playing this live in around 1970, I think).

During some of Page's session work, he worked with a string ensemble. One of the violin players asked Page if he had ever considered using a bow on the guitar. Page said that it would not work because the bridge is not arced like a violin. But later, Page tried the technique and adapted to his legandary stage shows.

The violin Player was father of David MacCallum - famous for "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." in the 60s.

Not that this is relevant at all, but it also completely destroys the bow... :-P Firenexx 01:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Actuallly it doesn't destroy the bow unless you REALLY use the bow hard like Page did (he would really wail on the thing). It does however cover your guitar and strings in rosen which is a pain if you try and start to pick the strings again. You can really get some interesting sounds by using it though.

Guitars listing

Under the guitars listing there's a Gibson "Black Beauty" Les Paul Custom. I'm assuming the listing refers to the one that was stolen from Page in the late 60's or early 70's (can't remember which, think it's the latter). Now, since he technically doesn't own the guitar, I was thinking that this entry maybe should be removed. I don't mind doing it myself, but I don't really want to edit articles if I'm unsure how others feel about the change. So please just share your thought. Raflmoe 16:44, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

This list doesn't indicate itself as being a list of Guitars Jimmy Page currently owns. I'm sure some of the other guitars may have been sold or fallen into various states of disrepair (he doesn't play them all constantly, after all. Some of them have to sit around in storage closets.) Therefore, it would seem it is just a list of "Guitars," or, more precisely, guitars that he's played a significant amount in the past. I don't think a change is necessary. You might want to note (This guitar was stolen in ____ (whatever year)) next to the guitar there, and put a source in the links at the bottom of the page. This would be harmless and I'm sure a lot of Page fans would be interested in this knowledge. firenexx 15:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

In the guitar listings, it is stated that he uses a "Harmony Acoustic". This acoustic is a mid 1960s Harmony Sovereign Dreadnaught Acoustic. While I'm not 100% sure, I believe this may be the guitar that the acoustic tracks of Stairway to Heaven were played on (I own one, and the similarity is amazing), but I could be wrong. christian.elliott 14:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Unlikely instruments

I removed "recorder, flute, tuba, computer keyboard, and airhorn" from the "other instruments" section- I've never heard or seen anything about him playing the instruments, and some of those just seem silly. If you can find a source for that info, feel free to add it back in. -albrozdude 23:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Chinese ancestry

This article says that Jimmy Page is 1/8 Chinese. I have pretty big knowlege of the subject, but I have never heard such a thing. Does anybody know wether it's true or nor?

That bugged me too. The only place(online) that says it, besides here, are the spam info pages that link all the info directly from wiki. Your probably pretty safe to turf it. IMO Cheers! Anger22 21:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I have just written to the guy that added this and asked him to provide references Mikus666 21:29, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

ya know, i actually did always notice that he looked a bit eastern. but, of course, we need a ref. Joeyramoney 22:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Led Zeppelin

Shouldn't their be a larger section on his work with Zep? All we have now is about three paragraphs. About a fifteen year period. Yeah. :p

that's why led zeppelin has it's own page. Joeyramoney 22:31, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Led Zeppelin III

In the subtitle "Aleister Crowley/Occult Interests" it says that Page pressed two sayings into the front and back covers. I have a vinyl of this album, and nowhere that I can see does this exist. The article on the album itself doesn't contain this bit of info either. Has anybody heard of this, and if so, where is it on the cover? Plus we need a reference.

My father has the album, and I don't recall seeing it, and, since there's not any source, I'm going to remove it. M2K e 14:02, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I have read somewhere that there was some Crowley quote; possibly 'do what thou wilt and it shall be the whole of the law', that was pressed into the vinyl itself? But I'm not sure about the reliability of that.

It was SCRATCHED into the run-out first few hundred LPs.

Edit the Non-Music Interest Section

That section is ridiculous. Can you people stop ruining wikipedia, please?

What's wrong with it? Grymsqueaker 16:44, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Welsh?

I was just curious as to why Page is listed under Wikipedia's "List of Welsh People."

PLAYED WITH KINKS

I think it is somewhat obvious to anyone who has listened to Page's session work in detail, and also to that of the early Kinks, that Page played more than one guitar solo on their releases. The solos on played on not only "You Really Got Me", and "All Day and All of the Night", but also to "I Need You", sound very similar in both tone and composition to Page's session work around that time for bands like The Primitives and The First Gear. If the solos do belong to Dave Davies, it was quite an amazing anomaly and coincidence as he has produced no other guitar solos that I am aware of that sound anything like them. The assumption that Shel Talmy would have just brought Page in to play some chords borders on naive. Shel was in the business of hits, and Page was his ace. Yes, the official versions of the events are that Dave Davies played all of it and Page just kind of lurked in the shadows or played some fuzz notes...or Keith Richards insists that he (Richards) played the solo on "Heart of Stone", but admits to copping it note for note from Page...but, oh, wait, Page did play on the alternate track that was released much later on the Stones Metamorphosis album. Again both solo sounds alot more like Jimmy Page in 1964 than Keith Richards - in fact Keith Richards really did not show the ability to play scales like that until perhaps much later, if ever. These explanations, at best, seem weak. Well if these guys were playing these solos, what did Page do then? Play some rhythm guitar and offer advice on solos? Rhetoric aside, the strongest evidence that Page did play these solos is the music itself. There are definitive elements to the sound and note selection that point intractably to Page's style at that time. In any case, at the very least the assertion in the article that it is a fact that he did not play on these recordings should be changed. This is not an NPOV. Considering the fact that the issue has been debated amoingst rock journals for decades should at least put this information in the realm of dispute.

Styling

His styling listed is OBE, Officer of the British Empire; however, the categories at the bottom of his page list him as Commander of the British Empire. Which is it, Commander or Officer Gorovich 17:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I looked through some links, and according to the one referenced in this article[1 he was made an Officer, so I went ahead and changed his category from Commander to Officer.

Bands

Oughtn't it be mentioned that he was a member of [The Outlaws]. It says so on the Outlaws webpage, and its apparently important enough since Ritchie's page has it there.