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User [[64.103.37.70]] has also, on occasion, replaced the sentence with "who regard its robust defence of science and the ideals of the Enlightenment; its anti-imperialist politics and its pro-freedom agenda; as making it a right-wing pro-corporate agenda publication." That ''is'' blatant POV. [[User:FrFintonStack|FrFintonStack]] 15:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
User [[64.103.37.70]] has also, on occasion, replaced the sentence with "who regard its robust defence of science and the ideals of the Enlightenment; its anti-imperialist politics and its pro-freedom agenda; as making it a right-wing pro-corporate agenda publication." That ''is'' blatant POV. [[User:FrFintonStack|FrFintonStack]] 15:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I've watched this discussion and been somewhat puzzled by the political slant. I've therefore attempted to clarify and add balance to this article, which is after all an encyclopedia entry and not a channel to wage one-sided attacks on the magazine. Mr Monbiot is of course entitled to his POV, and he repeats it as often as the British Press pay him. I'm not so sure that this is the right channel to hear it yet again as Wikipedia is not Mr Monbiot's personal soapbox, but obviously Mr Finton feels it appropriate to voice it once more, so why not amuse his lack of credidible judgement and let it stand?

Revision as of 20:33, 12 August 2006

Do we really need three different links to the magazine's website: I propose we delete the two that link to specific articles. They're there to be found by anyone who follow's the first. FrFintonStack 16:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Users 64.103.37.70 and 82.70.48.54 have been removing the statement "who regard it as a right-wing, pro-corporate publication.", claiming it to be POV. It is not: the statement does not claim that the publication is right-wing or pro-corporate, simply that George Monbiot and his ilk claim it to be. That is verifiable fact, and can easily be referenced (from Spiked's own website if necessary). If any user wishes to point out that the magazine denies being right-wing or pro-corporate (if of course they do), they are free to add that, but I would ask that users acquaint themselves with Wikipedia's NPOV guidelines and refrain from deleting NPOV statments of verifiable fact. I would like to thank 82.70.48.54 for removing the secondary links to the Sourcewatcch website: I would have done it myself if I had noticed.

User 64.103.37.70 has also, on occasion, replaced the sentence with "who regard its robust defence of science and the ideals of the Enlightenment; its anti-imperialist politics and its pro-freedom agenda; as making it a right-wing pro-corporate agenda publication." That is blatant POV. FrFintonStack 15:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've watched this discussion and been somewhat puzzled by the political slant. I've therefore attempted to clarify and add balance to this article, which is after all an encyclopedia entry and not a channel to wage one-sided attacks on the magazine. Mr Monbiot is of course entitled to his POV, and he repeats it as often as the British Press pay him. I'm not so sure that this is the right channel to hear it yet again as Wikipedia is not Mr Monbiot's personal soapbox, but obviously Mr Finton feels it appropriate to voice it once more, so why not amuse his lack of credidible judgement and let it stand?